blind war with stoxtrader

[Baulucky]

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for value? to bluff him off a queen? to make you realize youshould lay off the smack?

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To punish that stupid checkraise and steal more future pots?. I'm probably wrong anyway.

[DpR]

Really? Check the river? That seems crazy to me to let a guy totally off the hook just becasue he check raises a lot. He has shown no strength at all and we already checked the turn, thus he could call the river with a lot of stuff since we could have anything. I think checking both the turn and river is very not good. If the turn goes bet/call, then I don't mind the river check.

[PokerBob]

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Is reraising the river too LAG?.

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IMO, yes. There is only a small range that calls here that you beat, and you aren't folding out any better hands.

[PokerBob]

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6 handed online.

Stoxtrader raises in the sb, I 3 bet AT, he calls.

For those that don't play with stox, he's very aggro, moreso than most top players. Bigggg check/raiser.

Flop AQ6r he check calls.

Turn Q

he checks, I check.

River 2

He checks, I bet, he check/raises and I call.

Standard?

Sometimes I bet the turn, sometimes I don't. Stox and I play enough together I have to mix it up. I like checking here sometimes as I think I get an extra bet from some hands that would have folded and save 2 bets when he has a queen. Then again I'm giving him a free shot at a broadway if he has jt/kj/kt. What do you guys think?

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As agro as he is, a turn c/r would make me puke as he's the kind to bluff that scary whore on the turn. I want 1 bet to go in on every street. If none go in on the turn but 2 do on the river, fine. Folding the river would be a disaster IMO.

[bicyclekick]

A thought I just had...maybe I want to bet the turn...because he's going to c/r with a decent amount of hands and I'm beating most of them so...maybe I don't really need to puke as badly if he c/r me. I still think i like my line, though.

[stoxtrader]

I think you have the hand wrong.

Seat 1: Boutros (£3970 in chips)
Seat 2: Nevil2508 (£987.06 in chips)
Seat 3: Bbuddy (£9322.50 in chips)
Seat 4: stox (£14479 in chips)
Seat 5: BK (£10362 in chips)
Seat 6: Jum3 (£24251.22 in chips)
stox: posts small blind £50
BK: posts big blind £100
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to BK [As Ts] (i edited my hand out and put BKs in)
Jum3: folds
Boutros: folds
Nevil2508: folds
Bbuddy: folds
stox: raises £150
bk: raises £200
stox: calls £100
----- FLOP ----- [Qs 4d Ac]
stox: checks
bk: bets £100
stox: calls £100
----- TURN ----- [Qs 4d Ac][Qd]
stox: checks
bk: checks
----- RIVER ----- [Qs 4d Ac Qd][4h]
stox: checks
bk: bets £200
stox: raises £400
bk: calls £200

[bicyclekick]

I guess it makes a difference...albeit not a huge one. It happened days before I posted it and I had pulled it from memory cause I was still thinking about it.

[autobet]

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Sometimes I bet the turn, sometimes I don't.

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Perfect.

[DpR]

but adds the possibilty that Stox has a 4 here which easily could have played the hand the way he did (or perhaps more importantly could make stox think you might think he has a 4 when he c/r the river). But obviously that was not a factor in your thinking since you didnt remember it.

[Lestat]

<font color="red">Sometimes I bet the turn, sometimes I don't. </font>

I think this is fine, but you should always strive for optimum frequency. If he's a Bigggg check/raiser as you state, then be more inclinded to bet and induce a check/raise. You have little reason to fear a queen at this stage in the hand.