200BB Stacks, Huge Draw

[IndianOcean]

You are 45% to make this hand. I believe this is a easy call because you have a huge implied odds.

Call..

[Bukem_]

Other way around.

[creedofhubris]

A pot check-raise on the flop is dangerous. If he just calls, you have an awkward situation on the turn if you miss.

As for leading the turn, the thing about raising is that opponents almost never raise enough. Even if he raises you, it is unlikely to be a pot-sized raise, and will be a min-raise enough times to make it a decent investment. At least, I have found this to be true of a number of opponents; the really aggressive ones will make you pay however. Might be read-specific.

[LuvDemNutz]

I like check raising all in.

Make Villain put $1K in the pot, when he's not sure if his overpair is good.

[howzit]

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I dont like the flop check, although people would disagree, I think a pot sized lead here would be much better. I like a lead, hope he raises and I push.

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If you like to lead w/sets, this is a great line. I think this is my favorite line. But what's a bet size that would get raised by the majority of overpairs rather than getting called? 2/3 or pot-sized?


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I agree with cof that this is good for table image, a very good semibluff because, this could easily construed as a a set of 10's.

[/ QUOTE ] i don't know if a set of tens would play it this strongly...well, I tend not to play top set this strong and my regular opponents know this. Especially if I think my opponent has an overpair.

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If you lead and he calls, pot turn and river.

[/ QUOTE ] Ok, this is doable but this would scare the [censored] out of me. If the turn and river are both blanks, if he pays off the turn, he'll probably pay off the river.

I'd have to be pretty sure he's willing to laydown on the river of a big f'in pot if I fire a third barrel.



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Another good line IMO would be to lead flop, call raise and push turn.

[/ QUOTE ] Instead of calling a flop raise, why not push the turn if he calls behind on the flop?

[tpir90036]

I like leading out for $120. Hopefully he raises the flop and then you can re-raise all-in. I like using this line with big draws because it is the same line I use with sets OOP as well.

Check-raising all-in is a huge overbet and I would rather let him put in some more money on the flop in case he decides to fold after the push.

If he just calls you can reevaluate depending on whether you hit or not. Plus, there are a lot of scary cards that you could pot the turn on even if you don't hit.

[Yeti]

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Another good line IMO would be to lead flop, call raise and push turn.

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That would be pretty bad.

As OP played it, CR'ing allin seems fine. Maybe just call if you think he'll pay you off anyway if you hit, and you want to minimise your variance.

I prefer 3-betting the flop allin by far, though.

[chuddo]

i am an advocate of the bet-3bet push in this spot as well. particularly as another poster stated because i play sets out of position against a probably overpair the same way.

160 in the pot. i bet 125. villian can then make it 300 straight putting the pot around 585, and you can then set him in for his remaining 700+.

if he folds to your push with an overpair thinking you hit a set, then you take down a nice pot without showdown.and if he calls then i like the gamboool, because the numbers are on your side.

plus as someone mentioned this is nice for table image, and will allow you to get paid off when blowing the pot up with sets to overpairs drawing to two outs.

and last and probably most importantly....cracking aces with 89s for someones entire huge stack is fun.

[solid]

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I prefer 3-betting the flop allin by far, though.

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This seems like the best line in this spot, getting the most money in before pushing and still mantaining fold equity.

Anyone else?

[fsuplayer]

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I prefer 3-betting the flop allin by far, though.

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I couldnt agree more with this.

villian has 1k left with 150 in the pot. pot it, if he just calls thats not bad, and if he raises, laugh manically and dump the rest in. if he raises to 350-400, he may even fold if you push, given that you shown him some sets recently.