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Old 05-11-2005, 01:30 PM
wpzone wpzone is offline
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Default Re: Moving up limits on PS

Ok, so I'm giving them too much credit, but I need to respect their raises.....huh?
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:41 PM
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Saw that. We played 57 hands together on 5/6.
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Old 05-11-2005, 02:01 PM
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Here is a hand that bothers me from last night. UTG is 63/16/1 for 38 hands, MP2 is 71/9/2.5 for 21 hands.

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Although you only have 2-3 orbits of hands on these guys, you probably needed to rely on their stats to help you out and keep you folding on the river. While the agression numbers don't tell you a lot in this case, the VP$IP and the PFR numbers tell you that these guys are playing almost any ace and are going to play it aggressively when it pairs on the flop.
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Old 05-11-2005, 02:20 PM
Pocket Trips Pocket Trips is offline
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before you have any solid reads in a hand like u showed as an example it is better to go into calldown mode rather than fold w/ TPGK on a semi-uncoordinated board where the players called a PFR...chances are they are not playing A-rag here for a str8 possibility and 2 pair is doubtfull for hands that would call a PFR..

a major reason to raise PF is to make it easier to put opponents on a range of hands and that range would not include 7-8 for most average players..

With all tht action it is reasonable to assume A-K but not definate so you MUST call this down
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Old 05-11-2005, 05:55 PM
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Well another -15BB/100 for 200 hand loss today. Tightened PF and got a more aggressive today with more value betting and no folding in big pots for 1 or 2 bets when there is some chance I might win. Back to .05/.10 to build it back tonight!
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Old 05-11-2005, 06:02 PM
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shameless Hijack

I'm not sure I'm ready
Hands: 2009
VPIP 63.71
VPSB 86.97
PFR 47.19
AF: 2.43
WSF: 50.72
WSD: 44.36
W$SD: 47.36

BB/100: 10.99
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Old 05-11-2005, 06:10 PM
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Are those real numbers?

here are my stats:

Hands: 12294
VPIP 22.38
VPSB 35.35
PFR 7.21
AF: 2.29
WSF: 28.13
WSD: 32.66
W$SD: 48.32
CC%: 0.52
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Old 05-11-2005, 06:13 PM
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Are those real numbers?

yeah I play goot postflop
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Old 05-11-2005, 06:26 PM
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Why did you fold this big pot!!!! Jeez, you got a fair hand and you can't 100% certain you're behind!!! You'll take enough of these pots in situations like this to make the call profitable in the long run. P.S. I didn't read the results, yet.
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Old 05-11-2005, 06:46 PM
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I don't think your fold on the river is bad at all. You don't have enough hands for a solid read and you could easily be behind an Ax which connected with the board or a set. These 2 obviously like their hands and more often than not you are behind in a situation like this. You just happen to be against a nut who trapped you in this hand. Good, now you know and can get his money later. UTG seems to have a good read on MP2 so I wouldn't necessarily write him off.

Since the maniac is on your left, be sure to check/raise him with your monster hands as he'll likely trap the entire field for an extra bet.
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