New 2-4 NLHE at Foxwoods

[nate1729]

Hey, a non-yellow-chip comment. I guess I'll start with a thought: some players might accidentally play closer to correctly, because most simply grab three to five red chips when they want to raise preflop. This is much less of a mistake with 2-4 blinds.

[Ghazban]

Does anybody know what the time charge for that game is? Its $5/half hour for the 1/2 game and $6/half hour for the 5/5 game (at least, that's what I've been told-- I still haven't sat in the 5/5).

[toots]

So, what's the deal with the pariah status of the yellow chips, anyway?

The other day, I was playing a red chip ($5/10) game there. The table captain was getting seriously steamed whenever anyone would play a yellow chip. He'd make a big deal about buying it out of the pot (presumably so the dealer wouldn't have to collect them in her tray).

After he'd accumulated a reasonable stack of yellow chips, he gets up and wanders over to the cage to recolor them.

He returned to the table with their equivalent in whites.

WTF???

If yellow's bad, isn't white twice as bad? Ok, only 1.5 times as bad, since red is evenly divisble by white, but not yellow.

Too bad he didn't get a bunch of pinks.

[IgorSmiles]

2/4, $300 max buyin? Well, they still cant get the structure right but at least this one's playable.

[BeantownCaller]

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2/4, $300 max buyin? Well, they still cant get the structure right but at least this one's playable.

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There's no one correct structure, just as there isn't one correct tourney starting chip/blind format. There are common structures and accepted structures but every place is different.

75 big bets is better than 50 however, but I'm worried that this game will draw enough decent players from 5-5 that it might not be the fish fest we know and love. I bet 1-2NL will be the ultimate fish fest now, maybe even more so than before (if that's possible) because no self respecting poker player would play 1/2 when 2/4 is available, unless they had like $200 to their name.

[nate1729]

Don't you want the fish to keep some money? I don't always like playing it either, but there's more to objective quality of a structure than whether or not 2+2ers find it optimal.

[jar]

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So, what's the deal with the pariah status of the yellow chips, anyway?


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The yellow chips are for the 2/4 and 4/8 games only. In the red chip games, it's annoying to add another denomination to the mix. White is more effective for making change anyway. Yellow doesn't add anything but confusion. It's confusing to try and see the size of a bet in NL with the $2 chips. In the 5/10, yellow just adds annoying change making.

I'm not one of the grumpy Foxwoods regulars who berates people for bringing yellow to a red chip game, but it still should be avoided.

[dibbs]

Very intersting. I predict that it will play a fair amount more sane than the 1/2, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were pretty similar. I wonder if they'll make it an all yellow chip game. If it is, I imagine the opening bets won't be so huge, but maybe not. This could lead to more chasing but I doubt that is possible giving the action in the 1/2. I really think it will more likely be a little tighter, some gamb00lers but some tighter wanna-be grinders and some older folk.

This may make the 5/5 a little worse, as some of the 1/2 players taking shots at the bigger game may just go to 2/4 instead but I doubt it would be significant.

I'm interested to see any reports from people that play in it in the near future.

[AKQJ10]

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I hope they make you play it all in yellow.

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Haha, that was precisely my first thought!

I also learned this weekend that apparently the intention once upon a time was to use the yellow chips for $6/12 LHE, but I guess people just loved their $5/10 with a kill so that was kept instead. Not like you couldn't do $6/12 with a half-kill, but I guess then you'd need $3 chips too.

[IgorSmiles]

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Don't you want the fish to keep some money? I don't always like playing it either, but there's more to objective quality of a structure than whether or not 2+2ers find it optimal.

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I love the condescending pseudo-supremacy towards players you perceive as weaker than you, but to answer your question, no, I want the fish to lose all their money. And they dont, and never will. Even a blind man walks into a wall every now and again.

Good no limit games are 100 BB or more, if you disagree, feel free to give some objective reasons. I cant think of any.

All yellow chips would suck!