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Old 04-20-2005, 04:56 AM
Moozh Moozh is offline
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

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Hands: 9866

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Liar!

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VPIP: 28.59

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Way too high. Should be in the 18ish range (I'm 16). Don't open-limp with suited connectors. Don't call raises except with maybe 88 and 99. Don't play suited one-gappers except on the CO or Button after at least two limpers.

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VP Small Blind: 48.63

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Eh, maybe a bit high, but nothing to worry about.

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Fold SB to Steal: 74.65

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A bit too low maybe, but again, not a big deal.

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Fold BB to Steal: 50.45

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A bit too low again, but not a big deal.

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Att to Steal: 46.11

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I think this is significantly too high. Something in the low 30's is best.

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Won $ WSF: 33.64

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I see you're running well. Try to get this number to go up... 100.00 is probably optimal.

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Showdown: 30.27

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Looks fine.

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Won $ at Showdown: 51.21

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A bit low maybe, but that's probably because you're playing too many hands and going too far with them.

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PF Raise: 14.25

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You maniac! Remember, good poker players use selective aggression. Raising just for the sake of raising will get you in trouble, even in small stakes games where a lot of the players don't know how to counter it properly. It's fine to steal, but if you're doing it every time, even the slow ones are going to catch on. A good number here is 9-10.
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:57 AM
Moozh Moozh is offline
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

If a lot of those hands are from 3-handed games, it's really going to skew the stats you've posted. What are your pre-flop raise and aggression numbers for the full games only?
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:59 AM
RollingRockMike RollingRockMike is offline
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

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Is there an accepted max VPIP? I'm coming across as way too high so what is the range that I'm way above?

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Our VPIP and PFR are w/in 1%, but I'm really at the extreme end. I can't imagine playing even more hands profitably.

Mike
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

I would advise using the SSHE pre-flop charts as guidelines for a while. This will give you a short term fix, although you will need to sort out your own tactics once you plug the very large leak that is a 28% vpip.
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

Read a book
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:05 AM
Chris Dow Chris Dow is offline
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

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Hands: 9866

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Liar!

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The shame...

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VPIP: 28.59

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Way too high. Should be in the 18ish range (I'm 16). Don't open-limp with suited connectors. Don't call raises except with maybe 88 and 99. Don't play suited one-gappers except on the CO or Button after at least two limpers.

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Any quick way to run a filter through PT to see if I'm doing any of these things? I tried to get open limping of suited connectors but best I could get was just limping them.

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VP Small Blind: 48.63

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Eh, maybe a bit high, but nothing to worry about.

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Fold SB to Steal: 74.65

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A bit too low maybe, but again, not a big deal.

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Fold BB to Steal: 50.45

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A bit too low again, but not a big deal.

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This entire sequence, namely the opinion of which way the numbers are wrong, surprises me a bit.

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Att to Steal: 46.11

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I think this is significantly too high. Something in the low 30's is best.

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No comment, appreciate the number range.

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Won $ WSF: 33.64

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I see you're running well. Try to get this number to go up... 100.00 is probably optimal.

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Just as an aside, does this figure have to be running well or can it be at all attributed to taking pots away later (Mentioned because clearly I am aggro).

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Showdown: 30.27

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Looks fine.

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Won $ at Showdown: 51.21

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A bit low maybe, but that's probably because you're playing too many hands and going too far with them.

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PF Raise: 14.25

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You maniac! Remember, good poker players use selective aggression. Raising just for the sake of raising will get you in trouble, even in small stakes games where a lot of the players don't know how to counter it properly. It's fine to steal, but if you're doing it every time, even the slow ones are going to catch on. A good number here is 9-10.

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The only section here I *might* disagree with is that the slow ones are going to catch on, again thanks for the suggested range.
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:08 AM
Chris Dow Chris Dow is offline
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

Mike, I know it's perhaps a bit personal but what sort of BB/100 do you maintain with numbers close to mine? Or like what sort of numbers would you expect to maintain in a 10k sample.

As yet another side note, the people contributing with comments like "Read a book". Thanks, that's really deep.
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

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Att to Steal: 46.11


I think this is significantly too high. Something in the low 30's is best.


No comment, appreciate the number range.


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I think you can get higher than that profitably, maybe even up to 40%. But 46% is really pushing the envelope. For a really strong player with expert postflop skills 40% is possible, for mere humans like me mid 30's is probably best to shoot for.
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:10 AM
Chris Dow Chris Dow is offline
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

My preflop raise goes down to 12.28 at 9-10 handed tables. I couldn't filter to get like say, my attempt to steal blind stats.
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:18 AM
RollingRockMike RollingRockMike is offline
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Default Re: 10k Hands Checkup PT Help

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Mike, I know it's perhaps a bit personal but what sort of BB/100 do you maintain with numbers close to mine?


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I have PT on my other computer, but about 5 over 60K.

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Or like what sort of numbers would you expect to maintain in a 10k sample.


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10K is still a low number. My last 10K are at about 8.8. What are you seeing?

I don't know how PT calculates 'attmpt to steal', but if has anything to do with RFI - yours is way too high. I'd rather raise after a weak/tight limper or two.

Mike
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