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#11
03-17-2005, 03:40 PM
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Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.
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I would probably call and push on most flops. You could also push preflop, but the initial raiser will almost certainly call. [ QUOTE ] My stack is down to 2 000 after a battle of the blinds which I had to fold pre-flop after investing quite alot [/ QUOTE ] Seems like you probably needed to call the push on this hand. You were probably fairly pot committed and there is no reason to put the other blind on a big pair. [/ QUOTE ] There was no push on that hand. I felt I could out play a huy with crap, but the action I was facing could not meen anything but A A, K K, QQ ,A K against that particular player. [censored] happens Also, waiting until the flop to push doesn't make any sense to me. Almost always an over card will fall and I will be abosolutely clueless. Better get as much folding equity as possible before the flop rather than waitning and letting them hit their TPNK J To. 
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#12
03-17-2005, 03:48 PM
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Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.
Its math time!..yupi!!!!!!
Ok pot is 1800 and you have T1400..meaning that if u dont get called 55% of the time you will win chips on the long run. Thats why I like the idea of pushing ace-less flops.
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#14
03-17-2005, 04:14 PM
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Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.
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Its math time!..yupi!!!!!! Ok pot is 1800 and you have T1400..meaning that if u dont get called 55% of the time you will win chips on the long run. Thats why I like the idea of pushing ace-less flops. [/ QUOTE ] Huh? Why ace less? I have no clue of they're holdings? Just because UTG+1 may raise any ace doesn't not mean he won't raise K Q, any PP. BTW, MP seems good, so he might have noticed UTG+1 raising standards and is calling w/ a lesser hand than usual. On the flop, I have atleast 2 guys to act before me, and since they know me as weak/tight (mostly because of my cold cards during the day) one of them will most likely fire the flop. Now, I am calling away my stack with absolutely no clue of where I am, and I don't like that.
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#15
03-17-2005, 04:17 PM
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Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.
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If you push, how likely is it that you go up against 2 people instead of 1? If you can narrow it down to 1 I instapush here with the dead chips. [/ QUOTE ] Well, my hopes was to fold out both, but I was quite sure UTG+1 would fold most of the time, unless this was one of the few times he raised a legitimate hand. Since I had played so few hand, I hoped MP would fear my sudden agression and fold aswell. However, I think he is calling most of the time, maybe folding 99-TT, or QJ (which I don't think he would have called w/ in the first place.
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#16
03-17-2005, 05:58 PM
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Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.
I like calling because:
a) you have position, and have been playing tight, and have short stack; it will be pretty hard to bluff into you without hitting the flop. b) many flops will be good for you to push after the flop. I also think you will not thin the field by pushing as players will expect you to make a play short-stacked.
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#18
03-17-2005, 07:03 PM
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Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.
about 1/3 of the flops wont hav a or k or q or j
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#20
03-17-2005, 07:07 PM
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Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.
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about 1/3 of the flops wont hav a or k or q or j [/ QUOTE ] I think you need to recheck your math here
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