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#11
02-06-2005, 03:56 PM
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Re: John D\'agostino
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[ QUOTE ] The big game is no limit. [/ QUOTE ] No, its not. [/ QUOTE ] The big game (witch I assumed he was gonna play in) with Brunson och Ivey is no limit. 
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#12
02-06-2005, 03:57 PM
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Re: John D\'agostino
No, the game is not totally a no-limit game but often in the mixed games they will include no-limit and pot-limit hold'em, no-limit 2-7 lowball, and pot-limit omaha(all of these games have a cap, meaning that there is a maximum a player can lose on each hand), but the rest of the games are strictly limit
a 1,000,000 bankroll for 1,500/3,000 is probably insuffecient but not too ridiculously low but if you consider the fact that you should probably buy into that game for about 200,000 it does sound pretty low
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#14
02-06-2005, 04:07 PM
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Re: John D\'agostino
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[ QUOTE ] buy into that game for about 200,000 [/ QUOTE ] How do you buy into a game for $200k? Wire the money to the casino ahead of time or something? eastbay [/ QUOTE ] i suspect the regulars have racks of big chips in the vault.
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#16
02-06-2005, 04:36 PM
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Re: John D\'agostino
Exactly.
When Doyle, Chau, Lyle, et al. played the big game at Foxwoods during the World Poker Finals, they had wired money ahead, a couple of million at least between the group, and played using that. Of course, there is also a LOT of lending going on in that game, as they don't want to shut somebody out because he forgot to wire his money or the like. It is highly unlikely that I'll ever play that high, but if I do, I won't fit in well, as I make it a rule to never borrow nor lend money in the poker room. And it's an everyday occurrence in that game. In fact, there's a story about Bobby Baldwin being in the game, and lending Chau Giang $1M on the word of the other players. When Chau lost that and left the game, Bobby said he just realized he was owed $1M by a guy about whom he only knew his first name. Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)
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#18
02-06-2005, 06:13 PM
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Re: John D\'agostino
greg,
when you say you will probably never play this high, why is that? Is it because you don't feel you have a sufficient enough bankroll to play, because you arent as strong in all of the games or because you wouldn't want to be having million dollar swings.
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#19
02-06-2005, 06:36 PM
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Re: John D\'agostino
A few things... I didn't watch the game as you aren't allowed plus I'm not an enthusiast of railbirding. It was 1500/3000 mixed w/ JD, Chau, and 8 others I couldn't recognize....then Ivey walked in at 6am which is such a smart move IMO. About the big game, it's whatever the majority wanna play, limit and $$$ wise, on the back corner table... Ranges 1500/3000 - 8,000/16,000... And when Beal shows it's 30k/60k - 100k/200k. Concerning Turning Stone, John D'agostino played absolutely unbelievable. The one move he made at a decent size pot check raising Ivey all in with third button on the river w/ 4 clubs out... Pure genius... He has insane instincts. Also, I think a lot of you are reading too much Sklansky concerning your ideas of how many BB and so on and so forth you need to compete. It all depends on your comfort zone and willingness to gamble. There is not a set standard of what you need, period. I'm sure every player is a millionaire anyways... I mean D'Agostino won the USPC for 700k, second at TS for 250k and 6th at PSWPT for 90k and thats only 3 tourneys I know of. He is 100% playing w/ his own $$$ and imo is capable of beating the game. That's it...
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#20
02-06-2005, 08:16 PM
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Re: John D\'agostino
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when you say you will probably never play this high, why is that? Is it because you don't feel you have a sufficient enough bankroll to play, because you arent as strong in all of the games or because you wouldn't want to be having million dollar swings. [/ QUOTE ] I can't speak for Greg, but in terms of risk/return, when you have millions of dollars to work with, even for a highly skilled winning player there are often more profitable things to do with that money than put towards a poker bankroll - which may also be more interesting to you. Playing that high has a lot to do with how much gamble you have in you, and Greg may or may not have the sufficient degree. That has little to do with poker skill, bankroll, confidence, or guts. Even though one can play this game with an edge, it is important to remember that it is still gambling, and many people have limits to how much they care to gamble.
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