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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
Gus Hansen is one of the premier poker players in the world, period. How anyone can logically argue otherwise is beyond me.
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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
Women love his European sophistication and charm. Him calling down Antonio Esfandiari's pocket 7's with a 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] was an excellent example of Gus' mathematical abilities. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
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Him calling down Antonio Esfandiari's pocket 7's with a 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] was an excellent example of Gus' mathematical abilities. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] It was, since the range of hands he thought his opponent had gave him reason to call -- and call correctly, given the pot odds. Barron Vangor Toth www.BarronVangorToth.com |
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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
Yup, it was a coin-flip situation. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
Right, and he had already raised, what, 100,000?
Given the range, getting so much on return for his money, especially given that it was only a payout for first, his 49% vs. Antonio's 51% is +EV out the door. Barron Vangor Toth www.BarronVangorToth.com |
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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Him calling down Antonio Esfandiari's pocket 7's with a 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] was an excellent example of Gus' mathematical abilities. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] It was, since the range of hands he thought his opponent had gave him reason to call -- and call correctly, given the pot odds. Barron Vangor Toth www.BarronVangorToth.com [/ QUOTE ] Ugh. SO sick of hearing about this hand and how great a call it was. GUS HAD NO INCENTIVE TO WIN THIS TOURNEY! It was for a WPT Championships entry, that's all. Any player that already had one got nada if he won. Gus had one already. Sheesh, people. Gus is no doubt a great player, but saying he read Esfandiari for a smaller pair than 88 is just dumb. |
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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
Didn't he have the overlay necessary to call if he was against two non-paired overcards as well? I don't remember the details of the hand with respect to stack sizes, ante/blind sizes, and how much the raises were, but I thought his call was justified by the pot odds so long as Antonio didn't have AA-99. The pot odds coupled with the lack of incentive to win made it a pretty routine call (correct me if I'm wrong about the specific math involved as I don't have the information handy).
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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
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Gus is no doubt a great player, but saying he read Esfandiari for a smaller pair than 88 is just dumb. [/ QUOTE ] * When Antonio raised, I didn’t put him on a very strong hand; possibly, he could have a pair of fives, sixes, or sevens. - Gus Hansen * Even if he put him on overs, it was correct to call as he was putting in $300,000 at a shot at a pot with $520,000+ already in it, seeing as how 8-10s is about 40/60 vs. AKo and the like. Even David S. has stated from conversations with Gus that he believes Gus to be a mathematically gifted player. You don't get to be that good at backgammon, either, without it. He might be, arguably, one of the most underrated professionals on this forum. Barron Vangor Toth www.BarronVangorToth.com |
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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
it was clearly the right call, and it had nothing to do with what he would win if he won the tournament. he made the call for the reasons baron just laid out. it was right if antonio didn't have an pair > 88.
why people hate him: he plays unusual hands, and knows how to handle them postflop. most by the book players play big cards, and uncreative players play ABC tight/aggressive. that's why people think gus "get's lucky". but people who think this are deluding themselves. |
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Re: Great Gus Hansen article @ CardPlayer
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GUS HAD NO INCENTIVE TO WIN THIS TOURNEY! [/ QUOTE ] Then what was his incentive to even show up and play in the first place? If it was for the prestiege, or the publicity, or just the thrill of competition, then all of those are incentive enough to try to win. Maybe he did play a bit more reckless than usual, but it would have been more reckless to fold away his pot equity against good competition when he felt like he had a good read that he wasn't up against an overpair. |
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