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Old 02-02-2005, 05:36 PM
JinX11 JinX11 is offline
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Default Re: Incredibly Tough Player

Theory of Poker, Chapter Nineteen: Game Theory and Bluffing
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Old 02-02-2005, 05:37 PM
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I think you should do some self-observation and try to find out what your actions/tells are when you have a weak hand. Then when you have a hand emulate these tells agaisnt the strong player and see if you can induce him to bluff/push with a weaker hand. Knowing your own tells is at least as important as knowing those of your opponents. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 02-02-2005, 05:51 PM
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so you are essentially saying that when you play pots with this guy you are taking the worst of it. my advice is to simply avoid pots with him unless you are a huge favorite. when you are not in pots, and he is, notice what he is doing. remember what types of hands is he showing and how he played them. also, remember what types of hands you are showing and how you played them. when you get done playing, write down every play he made, with time you will start to catch his tendencies and start getting the best of it. even tricky players have tendencies, it is just more difficult to figure what they are.

edit: position helps
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Old 02-03-2005, 02:19 PM
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No, KY...just south of Cincinnati. Why?
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Old 02-03-2005, 04:30 PM
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1) avoid playing pots with him

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2) stay tight/aggressive and show him that you are willing to risk your entire stack at any time
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Old 02-03-2005, 04:40 PM
Benhogan7 Benhogan7 is offline
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I know this feeling very well. I had the same experience about two years ago. I played in a local no-limit game. The action and the players were very good and I felt I ran the action for the first four to five hours. When I got heads-up finally, I'd always get outplayed by one guy. He couldn't outplay me when we were in a ring game but he destroyed me heads-up. This went on for nearly six months. I became afraid to even make moves against him. Once I had kings under with a rainbow flop. All the cards were unders without any strait possiblities. I ended up folding it to him after a re-raise. I was afraid he flopped two pair. It made me sick. One day, I finbally decided I was going to control the action. I had nothing to lose and I finally won. Now I control him too. The key is faith. Play your game and control the table. Anyone can make a bet or a bluff. But "The Kid" Stu Unger once said, "It takes a pro to take two stabs at a pot he knows he can't win." Control the action and make your moves. That is the only way to beat a bull. Trap him over and over under he can't see straight. I guarentee you this method will get you a win and much needed confidence.
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Old 02-03-2005, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Incredibly Tough Player

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Theory of Poker, Chapter Nineteen: Game Theory and Bluffing

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You're probably not bluffing enough and he is bluffing with the correct frequency. Read this chapter and you will be able to counteract his bluffing. If you don't bluff enough and he bluffs with the correct frequency you are at a huge disadvantage. You need to change this if you ever want to break even when you play him.

Basically the theory is that you calculate the correct bluffing frequency and use artificial tools such as key cards or the second hand of your watch to randomly decide whether or not to bluff. Bluffing the correct frequency in combination with aggressively betting your legitimate hands will insure that his judgement is no advantage over yours. Just work on your tells and you'll be fine.
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Old 02-03-2005, 07:41 PM
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this chapter applies to play when there are no more cards to come. its useless for dealing with this situation.
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Old 02-03-2005, 09:14 PM
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Did he say he only has problems with this guy on the river?
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Old 02-04-2005, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: Incredibly Tough Player

Hi Flerdog,

I live in Northern Kentucky also. I was wondering which local casino's have Hold'em tables? I thought all of the local casino's (Grand Victoria, Argosy, and Belterra) only had card games against the house (Caribbean Stud, Blackjack, Boston 5 Stud poker, etc...). Just curious.

Thanks, Johnnyripss
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