What Hand did Teddy KGB have at the end of Rounders

[The T.A.]

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it doesnt matter. the poker schenes in that movie suck as they didnt do them correctly.

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Correctly? Define correctly.

Honestly, if Rounders filmed it's poker sequences to only appeal to hardcore poker players, nobody would go see it.

I thought they were well done, considering the audience.

[exist]

this is not correct. the cards you see up in the air when it is slowed down are the board cards, not KGB's hole cards.

[Vish]

KGB does say, before pushing the river, "That ace could not have helped you." The only way he could _know_ that was if he had two aces himself.

[AncientPC]

All your dreams . . . *kerplop*

[Maheha]

He had Three Kings...
IN his hand..

[Dan Rutter]

KGB was bluffing.

[That guy]

That hand was foreshadowed earlier in the Chan/Seidel hand.

In both hands, Chan/Damon flop the nut straight and check the turn to indicate they were still drawing.

So the point is just that Teddy KGB thought he was ahead in the hand when he wasn't and Chan/Damon trapped them by checking on the turn.

In the Chan/Seidel hand, Seidel moved all-in on the turn to defend against the draw out.

In the movie, KGB bets the pot to make Damon overpay to draw to 1 card.

when the blank hits, KGB moves in.

Net net, I think KGB had top pair or a set: AT TT 77 or 66 -- doesn't matter which.

[felson]

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In the Chan/Seidel hand, Seidel moved all-in on the turn to defend against the draw out.

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Seidel moved all-in on the river.

[frazwood]

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Preflop

MD (8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]) raises to 200, KGB calls

Pot 400
Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

MD checks, KGB bets 2000, MD calls

Pot 4,400
Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

MD checks, KGB bets pot 4,400, MD calls

Pot 13,200
River: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

MD checks, KGB all in, MD calls



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The question that I have always wondered about is: what did KGB think Mike had? He asks something to the effect of: "You're on a draw, Mike?". What hand would be an appropriate draw with that flop? It was a rainbow, so there is no flush draw. The only possibility is 4-5... and I just can't imagine a player of the supposed caliber of Mike drawing on the low side in no limit. It'd be too easy to make the straight and still get beat.

Of course, thinking about things like this means that I majorly need to get a life.

[kowboy]

Funny I just had this discussion with my wife. I think he had Ace Ten. He flopped top pair top kicker and read Damon for the draw. When the blank hit on fourth he still thought he had the best hand. Then when the ace hit on fifth he made top two pair. He put all the money in on this street because no other straight card hit. What were the chances of floppin a straight? He thought. I dont think he had a pair because he probably would have reraised pre flop. If he did have pocket aces his slowplay preflop would be idiotic. and with the board scary to the possible straight he would have wanted to get rid of damon instead of just betting in increments. Thats my reasoning [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]