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Old 11-01-2004, 11:11 PM
Desdia72 Desdia72 is offline
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Default Re: Key Hand #14: Pot Odds Call (against any two cards)

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The worse player you are, the more you should avoid this extremely marginal spot.


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Surely you mean "the better player you are...," right?

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maybe he really meant "the worse player you are".
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:42 AM
Desdia72 Desdia72 is offline
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Default Praying Mantis...

where is he when you need him?


you asked me to post a hand in which (most say) i played wrong.
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:06 AM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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Default Re: Key Hand #14: Pot Odds Call (against any two cards)

Damn, you caught me.

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Old 11-02-2004, 01:51 AM
ilya ilya is offline
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Default Re: Key Hand #14: Pot Odds Call (against any two cards)

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Damn, you caught me.

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Wait, now I'm confused. Did you mean "better" as I corrected or "worse" as Desdia re-corrected?

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Old 11-02-2004, 02:41 AM
DCIAce DCIAce is offline
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Default Re: Key Hand #14: Pot Odds Call (against any two cards)

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Wait, now I'm confused. Did you mean "better" as I corrected or "worse" as Desdia re-corrected?

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I'm pretty sure the statement was meant as "The better you are, the more you want to avoid these type of marginal situations", simply because that makes the most sense. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:31 AM
PrayingMantis PrayingMantis is offline
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Default Re: Praying Mantis...

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where is he when you need him? you asked me to post a hand in which (most say) i played wrong.

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Hi Desdia, sorry for not jumping in earlier - too much traffic on this site.

Anyway, as most say, it's a very marginal call. Actually, I'd say that for me it's a sure fold, and in most cases it's not close. It's not a good enough spot, with regard to pot odds and hand, to put this kind of money in the pot (you're putting more than 1/4 your stack here). I'd save my chips for a better opportunity.

About "asking" you to post a hand in which you played wrong - well, it's not like that's a special challenge or something, but I really think that posting hands like you posted here, could be much more helpful for your game (and others'), than posting hands in which you were a favorite, made the right move, and got out-drawn or something.

The play in all those "marginal" situations (like the one here, say), is the thing that makes the difference, IMO. So I think it's an interesting post and a good thread.
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: Key Hand #14: Pot Odds Call (against any two cards)

Easy fold. And you don't know it a totally random hand do you? He would do any 2? Hard statement to make think your hoping its any 2 to make it sound like a closer decision then it really is and even then its wrong.
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:22 PM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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Default Re: Key Hand #14: Pot Odds Call (against any two cards)

I meant that if your edge against the field is small, then you must look for spots like this more often. Otherwise, you can pass.

There will be times, however, where the odds are just too good for anyone to pass on.

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