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Old 10-17-2004, 11:36 AM
Bubu Bubu is offline
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Sweet idea and nice screenshots. I am using the pokertracker real time windows now - am only three tabling now...
But I really like your idea

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Old 10-19-2004, 11:52 AM
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Cool, looks good. I'm interested, since I'm running dual monitors, but the other is a 17", so pokertracker gametime windows end up overlapping.

Is there any way you could have it display the icons that pokertracker labels people with when it autorates them?
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Old 10-19-2004, 01:54 PM
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Call me old fashioned but whatever happened to the concept of just sitting down at a table and beating the opposition with superior poker skills. It's kind of like using an underwater camera when fishing. Sure you caught some fish but how good of a fisherman are you really?

Please don't get upset when you read this. I actually think what you did is nice (I'm a software developer) but it just seems like so many people on this site use technology to maximize their earnings but then have a conniption when someone mentions bots. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 10-19-2004, 02:27 PM
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If you're going to go fishing, do you go to a known spot where you usually catch fish, or do you just go to any hole in the ground that contains water?
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Old 10-19-2004, 03:05 PM
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Look, I get your point but there are some things people will never agree on (like politics or religion). How would you feel about going to a home game and discovering that one of the players brought a hand held computer with some kind of poker odds calculator on it? I wouldn't like it at all. I don't see how this is different from having an electronic crutch when playing online.
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Old 10-19-2004, 04:43 PM
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Call me old fashioned but whatever happened to the concept of just sitting down at a table and beating the opposition with superior poker skills. It's kind of like using an underwater camera when fishing. Sure you caught some fish but how good of a fisherman are you really?

Please don't get upset when you read this. I actually think what you did is nice (I'm a software developer) but it just seems like so many people on this site use technology to maximize their earnings but then have a conniption when someone mentions bots.

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I guess I'm not an old fasioned guy like you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I don't want to cheat, but I don't have any problems getting an advantage within the rules of the poker site.

Back when I made the note exporter, I asked "Is this cheating?", no one thought it was. The PT gametime window has been around for a long time, this is just a smaller version of it.

I do understand your concern. This thing took me 5 hours, what if I put some serious time into it? Where do I draw the line? Is anything short of actually pressing the buttons OK?
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Old 10-19-2004, 09:28 PM
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That's a very good question. Where do you draw the line? What if you expanded the system to read your hole cards and the cards on the board and calcualte your pot equity in real-time? What if you then made a recommendation as to whether to fold/call/raise? What if you looked at player tendencies and popped up a warning when the system suspected a check-raise or a bluff? How is this different than a bot other than the user is pushing the buttons? I'm sure you could make a lot more money playing this way but it just doesn't sound enjoyable to me.
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Old 10-20-2004, 02:55 PM
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I get your point, but I feel there's a line that shouldn't be crossed. I wouldn't know where to begin articulating that, though.

To repeat the fishing analogy, does it make me a worse person if I buy a boat to reach a remote fishing hole? How about if I splurge $500 (sorry, I'm not a fisherman, so the price may be out of whack) for an excellent setup to help me catch more, larger fish? Would you be sitting on the bank shaking your fist at me as I drove by?
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Old 10-20-2004, 08:41 PM
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What if you expanded the system to read your hole cards and the cards on the board and calcualte your pot equity in real-time? What if you then made a recommendation as to whether to fold/call/raise? What if you looked at player tendencies and popped up a warning when the system suspected a check-raise or a bluff?

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This is the type of stuff that interests me as a programmer.

Just to recommend an "intelligent" preflop call/raise/fold (based on players to your right and left), as you suggest (and I have thought about this before) would require some serious math-based understanding of the game and the skill to put that into code that I don't have.
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Old 10-21-2004, 08:03 PM
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I am failing the geek test bad on this one and I don't want to bug our kind auther anymore. Can anyone tell me in none geek terms what this means and how to do it?

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IIS is a webserver, make a shortcut with those lines
to run it.

> IIS is a web server, you can run it with the
> following:
> Target: %SystemRoot%\system32\mmc.exe
> %SystemRoot%\system32\inetsrv\iis.msc /s
> Start In: %HomeDrive%%HomePath%
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thanks, Steve
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