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Old 07-28-2004, 06:20 PM
nykenny nykenny is offline
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Default Re: Three Preflop Questions

q1: call 90 / fold 10
q2: call 100
q3: raise 90 / call 10
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Old 07-28-2004, 06:31 PM
cbragado cbragado is offline
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Default Re: Three Preflop Questions

1. Call, getting 13 to 1 on your call with any two random cards.
2. Fold. Calling two bets with Jack high doesn't seem right.
3. Raise.
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Old 07-28-2004, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Three Preflop Questions

A) Who is the pre-flop raiser and what are his raising standards? Against unknown players I'd call (half a bet with good pot odds) and hope the flop hit me pretty hard. Depending on how the other players play post-flop, I'd CR or bet out with top pair (especially 8's).
B) You'd like to see the flop more cheaply than this, but with everybody in it's a close decision.
C) Raise. He's loose, and you've got position. If a flop raise (or bet) will buy a free card (or cause an unimproved A to fold(!!)), you'll see the hand cheaply with a good chance of winning.
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Old 07-28-2004, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: Three Preflop Questions

im better than you-
1.- i call getting 15-1
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: Three Preflop Questions

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Q1: early raise 6 callers including the button and SB, you have Q8o on the BB. Call or Fold?

Q2: early raise, everyone calls, you have J10o on the button. Call or Fold?

Q3. Very loose player ( but throws away the worst hands preflop) limps in early position, everyone folds to you on the button, you have KQo. Call or Raise?


[/ QUOTE ]

1: fold
2: fold. Since when does JTo play good multiway? I wouldn't play this if it was a very loose raiser raising, why would i play it with a tighter raiser. If i was in the BB i could see a call.
3: raise

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Old 07-29-2004, 10:20 AM
David Steele David Steele is offline
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Default MY choices and Foillowup Q.

All three hands came up in private discussions this week.

My choices.

1. Q8o Fold but it is close

2. J10o I was in the fold camp when I first was discussing this with a friend but the connectedness may justify a call even though the hand is offsuit.

3. Clear Raise - My friend was crazy to argue. But seriously the only debate i is that with some weaker hands you don't have to raise if a) you already have the button, b) it is not possible to steal the blinds. So with say KJo and the limper is not so bad then just calling is better. The 15-30 structure makes it more important to raise because the small blind will play total trash.
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Old 07-29-2004, 10:22 AM
kyro kyro is offline
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Default Re: Three Preflop Questions

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Since when does JTo play good multiway?


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I always thought it did. Can you explain why you think it doesn't bernie? I was under the impression connectors were good multi-way, but I may be too loose.
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:06 AM
Knockwurst Knockwurst is offline
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Default Re: Three Preflop Questions

Q1: Dump that trash. Your're hand's completely covered by the other six hands. Two queens on the flop may not even be good. About the best you're hoping for is a flop with two eights and that's approximately 9800/1 (is that right?) Anyhow, it's a trash hand.

Q2: This one's a little closer. Suited I would say definitely. J10os because you have seven callers with the blinds still to act, I'd be inclined to call particularly if I was sure one of the blinds wasn't going to raise and then get a re-raise from the original raiser. If I called and then it was capped it would be a tough call whether to dump it (even with two bets in), or throw another two bets in.

Q3: Easy raise IMO. You have good cards and position. Even if you miss the flop you may still have the best hand, and if he's loose passive he's not going to extract the most from you when you're behind. A raise may also make him fold if an A flops even if he is LPA.
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: Three Preflop Questions

1. Despite the attractive odds, I fold.
2. It's close between calling and folding...could go either way I think.
3. Clear raise.
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Three Preflop Questions

1. Fold
2. Fold
3. Raise

None of these are very close to me at all but perhaps I think less of my postflop skills than others in this thread.

Maybe I'm way off but I'm shocked at how many are calling with JTo in that spot.

Luke
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