Daily Hand Post: "Amazingly Standard" AQ?

[Nick C]

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As I said to Jason over IM:

"seems pretty standard. both bets are standard for me and on the river he can have missed diamonds or some wierd backdoor draw that he now thinks he can get you to fold on the river with, so i call."

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I'm fine with the call.

I do think it's unfortunate that the jack hits some backdoor draws, though (89, J9, J8).

[Shillx]

When I call with ace-high on the river, I usually don't win.

Haha yeah I hope not. But we should win one time in five or so. Certainly enough to make it +EV as long as the villian is capable of bluffing. It is hard to analyze the exact EV of a call or fold since we don't know how often the villian will bluff. You pretty much have to use your best judgement when calling on the end and not let the outcome (if you lose) alter your decision making in the future. Just because you get shown something this time doesn't mean that it was a bad call.

Brad

[Klepton]

here's the convo i had with Jason online:

sickmanning: perfect
sickmanning: i do this about 55 times a day
sickmanning: results?
Jasonish712: irrelevant, right?
sickmanning: pretty much
sickmanning: get used to doing it a lot
Jasonish712: (MHIG, but it felt so dirty)
sickmanning: are you kidding
Jasonish712: no
sickmanning: if you don't know that liune, we might have problems
Jasonish712: okay, talk to me
sickmanning: that hand was amazingly standard
Jasonish712: oh my
Jasonish712: then i'm posting it
sickmanning: you're seriously sayign you don't do that?
Jasonish712: :-(
sickmanning: like thatw as the first time?
Jasonish712: like a virgin touched for the very first time
sickmanning: wow
Jasonish712: i guess i just don't get it :-(
sickmanning: omg
sickmanning: we need t talk thenm

[Klepton]

ok here are my thoughts on the hand, and keep in mind this is pretty much exactly how i think when playing 30-60 on party.

i raise MP1 with AQ, guy coldcalls. i now put him on any 2 cards.

flop is t35, i bet, guy calls. i put him on any 2 cards
turn is a 7. i bet, guy calls. now i put him on 2 cards higher than a 7, or a pair
river is a j, i check to induce a bet and will call instantly. he bets, i call.

sometimes he'll have a pair, most times he won't. i profit

[istewart]

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here's the convo i had with Jason online:

sickmanning: perfect
sickmanning: i do this about 55 times a day
sickmanning: results?
Jasonish712: irrelevant, right?
sickmanning: pretty much
sickmanning: get used to doing it a lot
Jasonish712: (MHIG, but it felt so dirty)
sickmanning: are you kidding
Jasonish712: no
sickmanning: if you don't know that liune, we might have problems
Jasonish712: okay, talk to me
sickmanning: that hand was amazingly standard
Jasonish712: oh my
Jasonish712: then i'm posting it
sickmanning: you're seriously sayign you don't do that?
Jasonish712: :-(
sickmanning: like thatw as the first time?
Jasonish712: like a virgin touched for the very first time
sickmanning: wow
Jasonish712: i guess i just don't get it :-(
sickmanning: omg
sickmanning: we need t talk thenm

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Absolutely pwned. Now all we need to do is teach him to like the Beatles...

[ihardlyknowher]

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boringly standard.

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Didn't someone post something about hands like these?

[Nick C]

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boringly standard.

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Didn't someone post something about hands like these?

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Oh, I don't know. I think it's okay to let people know (or remind them) that it's okay to call with ace-high sometimes.

I should probably do it more often than I do.

And as an experienced cold-caller/floater, this Villain quite likely fires with some frequency on the river as a bluff, perhaps with some success.

[jgorham]

The flop bet might not be standard. By that I mean I will sometimes check here, depending mostly on the WSD and aggression factor of the player behind me. If the flop were less dry, I probably wouldn't bet into 3 opponents.

The rest of the hand is pretty standard for me though, for the same reasons that have already been posted.

[PokerBob]

I like it.

[PokerSparky]

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sometimes he'll have a pair, most times he won't. i profit

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You really think he has no pair here over 50% of the time? I think a call is +EV, but I don't think he doesn't have a pair "most" of the time.