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Old 11-07-2005, 07:24 PM
kiddo kiddo is offline
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

YEp, he says:

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I don't like to three-bet from the big blind because it tends to announce my hand. My opponents know that I'm starting with a very big hand.




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Solution is to 3bet more, not stop 3betting.

U can raise him from button or SB with any cheese and he doesnt play back at u, makes no sense.
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

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i see him playing 50/100 or 100/200 2 or 3- handed on full tilt sometimes.. you high rollers should jump in.

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I wrote up a super-sarcastic reply to this, but this will suffice: you're an idiot.

EDIT: More appropriately, that was an idiotic post. There are lots of way to critique both the email and the responses, but that was not one of them.
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:38 PM
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And note that he does not like to 3-bet when he's in the big blind either.

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Yes, that was a little bizarre as well. Not that my super-shorthanded skills are demonstratably fantastic at laggy tables, but his advice definitely seems a little tightish to me (other than the button raising). Unless he's not telling us everything [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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I think he means that he doesn't 3-bet, when the button is the 1st one in the hand, but in general his advice should just be followed on a tight table, to probably get some more money.
If the table, like so many, is LAG there seems to be no use in not 3-betting.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

One thing that's pretty clear is that this guy is trying to write down to a beginner level audience. Obviously it is shallow and oversimplifies but I wouldn't look into much as a reflection of his knowledge or play.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

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One thing that's pretty clear is that this guy is trying to write down to a beginner level audience. Obviously it is shallow and oversimplifies but I wouldn't look into much as a reflection of his knowledge or play.

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I think that's a valid point, but it doesn't really excuse such bad advice.
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

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One thing that's pretty clear is that this guy is trying to write down to a beginner level audience. Obviously it is shallow and oversimplifies but I wouldn't look into much as a reflection of his knowledge or play.

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I think that's a valid point, but it doesn't really excuse such bad advice.

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this advice is not bad esp 3handed.
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:22 PM
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If that style is manaical for 3-handed and 4-handed, then I'm certifiably insane. Which may be the case. "Something as modest as A9 might qualify" for 3-betting in the SB after a button raise in a 3-handed game?!

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opening 67% of your button hands IS insane.
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

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If that style is manaical for 3-handed and 4-handed, then I'm certifiably insane. Which may be the case. "Something as modest as A9 might qualify" for 3-betting in the SB after a button raise in a 3-handed game?!

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opening 67% of your button hands IS insane.

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I believe Howard Lederer raises about that often in a 3-handed game. See Howard's reply to this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...89280d28a5db1d
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

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If that style is manaical for 3-handed and 4-handed, then I'm certifiably insane. Which may be the case. "Something as modest as A9 might qualify" for 3-betting in the SB after a button raise in a 3-handed game?!

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opening 67% of your button hands IS insane.

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baron = weak tight. wheres aggrohushposter?
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

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YEp, he says:

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I don't like to three-bet from the big blind because it tends to announce my hand. My opponents know that I'm starting with a very big hand.




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Solution is to 3bet more, not stop 3betting.

U can raise him from button or SB with any cheese and he doesnt play back at u, makes no sense.

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I disagree with this. Sure, you have to play back, but who says you have to play back preflop?? You've got 3 more streets to "play back." Just calling with strong hands preflop is wise in a lot of situations.
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