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View Poll Results: 8-8 UTG+2. Folded to You
Raise 54 26.60%
Call 111 54.68%
Either Way 32 15.76%
Fold 6 2.96%
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Old 10-02-2004, 04:14 PM
knightunner knightunner is offline
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Actually, it means I believe in democracy and would prefer that every eligible voter did so. This nation would be a much different (and better) place if we had a turnout in the 90s.

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I agree 100%

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Old 10-02-2004, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Hypothetical voting question

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Markl44 posed a hypothetical, he never mentioned that it would break any laws. If it was legal would it change your answer?

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Now, lets say that I decide that I want to vote, and its too late to register.

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That is no different than writing "I want to murder my ex-wife but I cannot locate her. Will you help me?" I did not say it was illegal but even you might agree that it would be. His hypothetical was no different. If he wanted it to be a legal situation it would have been quite simpe to construct the situation to be so. In fact much simpler than how he chose to word his phrase. It is therefore reasonable to assume the illegality of the request was most important.

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Old 10-02-2004, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Hypothetical voting question

Its all subject to interpretation- i took it as
"i want to vote, but its to late to register- and you knew of a loophole that would allow me to register legally"
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Old 10-02-2004, 07:14 PM
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Its all subject to interpretation- i took it as
"i want to vote, but its to late to register- and you knew of a loophole that would allow me to register legally"

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Fair enough, I can see that.

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Old 10-02-2004, 07:50 PM
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I care about the nation as a whole and that is why winning is important. Since you would vote in a manner that is contrary to what I think is best for the nation I would not inform you on how to register. I actually hope all the people who do not support my candidate have migraine headaches on election day and stay home. In my opinion this would be best for the nation. If you don't see it this way then I am afraid you don't understand the nature of the political struggle the nation is engaged in. It is serious business and the differences are differences in principle. If you are steadfast in your principles why would you want to compromise them. We are a divided nation to be sure and everybody should vote. Everybody should get registered to vote. But the hell with the opposition. I want my principles to prevail ..... that is what it best for the nation. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 10-02-2004, 08:09 PM
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That is no different than writing "I want to murder my ex-wife but I cannot locate her. Will you help me?"

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Your analogy is absurd. What I meant was to create a problem that balances how much you care about the election, nation, youth, etc. vs how much you care about winning. Assume not only is it legal for me to register late with your method but me voting is considered good and beneficial for the nation.
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Old 10-02-2004, 10:10 PM
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If you are willing to show me how to register, then great. This shows that you care about getting youth to vote, which I guess is good for the nation. However, it also just goes to show that my vote does not mean a damn thing.

If you pretend you dont know how, then you probably care more about yourself and winning than the benefit of the nation as a whole.

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It is not my (or any other individual's) responsibility to show someone how to vote. If someone wants to cast a vote, it is their own responsibility to register and vote, not depend on someone to show them how. In your hypothetical situation, if you cared about voting then you would not have waited so long to register.
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Old 10-02-2004, 10:19 PM
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Your analogy is absurd.

[/ QUOTE ] Not at all, in fact it was a perfect analogy worded in the same manner in which you phrased your question.

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What I meant was to create a problem that balances how much you care about the election, nation, youth, etc. vs how much you care about winning.

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Then perhaps that is what you should have asked in the first place rather than attempting to be cute and ask something else entirely. Why must I be the resident psychic on this forum everytime someone writes something other than what they intended?

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Assume not only is it legal for me to register late with your method but me voting is considered good and beneficial for the nation.

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Making that assumption I would tell you incorrectly how to register making you think that you are in fact legally registered. I would then propose a challenge to the election should my candidate of preference lose said election. There is absolutely no way I could be expected to think that if you are voting the opposite of me that it would be good for the country. An incorrect vote is much worse than no vote at all.

Happy now?

Jimbo
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Old 10-02-2004, 11:05 PM
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Happy now?

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I feel sorry for you.
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Old 10-02-2004, 11:13 PM
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I feel sorry for you.

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I bet you really don't. I'm using that psychic energy you think I have.

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