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Old 06-07-2005, 10:26 PM
FlFishOn FlFishOn is offline
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Default Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

Proposition: Party and skins deal nonrandom turn and or river cards some small % of the time to benefit underdogs thus sending chips from good (winning) players to fishies.

Rebuttal: There's no way a bunch of programmers could keep such information under wraps. The dirty secret would get out (there are others, most are spurious or logically flawed).

This is all well covered ground. This week I read that the 42% owner or Party, Anurag Dikshit, is/was seriously involved in the software end of the business. Did he write the needed buggered code? I'm thinking that the rebuttal above now falls in light of this information. One skilled, highly placed programmer could easily and secretly cobble up the needed code. Hell, I could do it (in basic [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ). Now we know that such an individual exists at the highest level.

No need to flame, I'm immune.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

Your idea is proposterous. If someone were going to rig the software to help fish, why would they only rig the "turn and river" cards? Why not preflop and the flop?
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

Too easy to spot.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

What overwhelming evidence do you have to support your claim?
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

I may never have evidence. The experiment needed to detect this bias is daunting to perform.

I do have some preliminary data that is not quite right.
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Old 06-08-2005, 12:14 AM
Exsubmariner Exsubmariner is offline
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Default Re: Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

Could you please elaborate on this preliminary data?
I'm very curious. This evening, I had a full house busted by a runner runner str8 flush. It was not the first time. It was like they knew because they kept raising, too.
It got me thinking not about things being rigged, but possibly hacked....
I will probably post more of my thoughts about this in my own thread once I get them sorted.... The 10K+ hand losing streaks do seem to happen quite a bit.
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Old 06-08-2005, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

"I will probably post more of my thoughts about this in my own thread once I get them sorted"

please dont.
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Old 06-08-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

I tested hands where there were two player, one of which was all-in in SSTs where both hands were shown. The results were biased in favor of the underdogs.

Rigorous experimentation here is problematic. Even if you could conduct a truly valid experiment, what do you do with the results (besides avoiding PP)? I do that already.
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Old 06-08-2005, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

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I do have some preliminary data that is not quite right.

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You've been asked to show the evidence of your "claims" many times in the past and refused each and every time.

I thought all was right with the world now, you have a poker tutor, etc... and you had given up on your conspiracy theories.

Once again, would you care to show us the preliminary data that indicates that things are not quite right?

Seriously, I think everyone here would be very interested in seeing your results, even at the preliminary phase.
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Old 06-08-2005, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Pure Tin Foil Hat Stuff - U wuz warned

My old research means nothing. I can sway no one with it except myself.

Want to duplicate my experiment? I'll supply details, PM me.

Any new research will be equally valueless.
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