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Old 09-10-2004, 08:23 PM
Synergistic Explosions Synergistic Explosions is offline
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Default Re: instantaneous cash-ins

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So for the record, I deposited $300, got a $300 bonus that can't be withdrawn, won $475, to get a total balance of $1075, of which $775 should be available for cashout.

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Yes, lazymeatball said he got a 100% deposit. The link I got from Granny said 50%. So I'm wondering if they changed it today.
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Old 09-10-2004, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: instantaneous cash-ins

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Yes, lazymeatball said he got a 100% deposit. The link I got from Granny said 50%. So I'm wondering if they changed it today.

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I emailed. They said it had been higher, but that it was changed a while ago. They said reloads may be higher so maybe his was a reload. Most sticky bonuses are much higher, but they have the wagering requirement. At 100% bonus, people would clean them out. Maybe that is what happened. The whores struck again, but at least it is still an amazing bonus. May not last at this level either.
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Old 09-11-2004, 10:03 AM
GrannyMae GrannyMae is offline
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I clicked your banner Granny. It shows a 50% match bonus now. Did they just lower it?

actually, they did lower it a while ago.

HOWEVER, it was not lowered at all in reality.

here is what i mean:
at one point it was 100% to $300. the $300 has not changed, and never will. only the percentage did. yes, you have to put more up to get the maximum bonus, but the extra $300 you put up NEVER has to be put at risk because you can leave after one hand.

the bottom line is that it is a $300 sticky that will be removed on your cash-in. whether it cost you $600 to get the $300, or $300 to get the $300, it is still $300. the extra $300 you would have to put up should just be considered banked money in your mind. I.e. don't touch it. follow the regular strategy and forget the additional $300 is even there. it has no effect on playing this bonus, and no EV was removed when the percentage changed.

they are going to remove $300 from your cash-in whether you had to put up $600 to get it, or only $300 to get it. as i said, this is one of those weird instances where the zero WR makes this change in percentage completely irrelevant, other than the fact that you have to put $600 there. this is a bonus that needs to be looked at in dollars, not percentages. the dollars did not change, and they won't be changing it again soon as JtF suggests.

if you play it like it should be, you will have your $600 (plus win) back within minutes anyway, so it is not like regular casinos and pokerrooms where you have your money tied up for days (or a week).

just don't touch the extra $300 you had to put there. wipe it it from your mind, and pretend it was a $300, 100% match.

hope that clears it up
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Old 09-11-2004, 10:19 AM
GrannyMae GrannyMae is offline
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Oh, is Video Poker at $500 a hand a good bet?

i have not done the exact math, but you are certainly correct that it lowers risk. in blackjack or baccarat, you win or lose. in 10, 50, or 100 hand VP you will definately get many wins. here's the deal in my brain, and it is what i am going to try with my next reload.

i am going to play 50 hand, 50 cent VP. just one hand is $125 i think.

what i am praying for is to be dealt 2 pair (or better obviously). if i am dealt 2 pair on this bottom hand, which happens alot, i will at LEAST double my money. i'll actually make more because in 50 hands, i expect some full houses.

if i am not dealt 2 pair, i want jacks or better dealt. that insures a push, but also gives me 50 or 100 draws to 2pr, trips, full houses and quads.

worst case--> i get dealt squat on the bottom. i still have 50 or 100 hands and will likely hit many, many hands for at least a partial return on my investment. with a little luck, i can be dealt a royal if i redraw all 5 cards.

bottom line, i think the risk of losing it all is lower when playing VP, and the house edge you give up by playing VP instead of blackjack or baccarat is well worth it to those that are more risk averse. did you play last night JtF?

finally, your comment about not being sure about the big bets certainly has some merit, but there is no reason to bet $500 a hand like these other people do. go with $100 hands, or even try to grind it with $20 hands. hell, play some craps. i know you love that.

point is you can cashin and go home ANYTIME you want, just like a real casino. just because you CAN bet $500 per hand, does not mean that you should bet it. Treat it like a night at a $25 BJ table in Monaco. relax and have fun.



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Old 09-11-2004, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: instantaneous cash-ins - Gotta love the Overlay

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This is a serious overlay

precisely the beauty of this place.

out of curiosity, why baccarat? is the HA on BJ in this place higher than it should be? nice score

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Is there an advantage in using your link or banner V signing up direct? What Video Poker game is best for this bonus structure?
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Old 09-11-2004, 11:48 AM
GrannyMae GrannyMae is offline
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Default Re: instantaneous cash-ins - Gotta love the Overlay

Is there an advantage in using your link or banner V signing up direct? What Video Poker game is best for this bonus structure?

yes. all sign-ups may choose between

a. a copy of the famous paris hilton-mason malmuth-granny mae sex sandwich video

OR

b. a toothless gum-hummer from your choice of paris hilton, granny mae or mason malmuth.



NO! there is no advantage. the deal is the same. the only thing you would get from me would be that i would fight like hell for you if you had any problems, and say thanks for the click. fights coming from the affiliate are usually resolved quicker

BUTTT there will be no problems with this casino. they are trustworthy or i would not have gotten involved. so, use my links or sign direct.

best VP game i think is jacks or better, but i am not 100% on that. i have to look at the paytable for the double bonus game.
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Old 09-11-2004, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: instantaneous cash-ins

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I clicked your banner Granny. It shows a 50% match bonus now. Did they just lower it?

actually, they did lower it a while ago.

HOWEVER, it was not lowered at all in reality.

here is what i mean:
at one point it was 100% to $300. the $300 has not changed, and never will. only the percentage did. yes, you have to put more up to get the maximum bonus, but the extra $300 you put up NEVER has to be put at risk because you can leave after one hand.

the bottom line is that it is a $300 sticky that will be removed on your cash-in. whether it cost you $600 to get the $300, or $300 to get the $300, it is still $300. the extra $300 you would have to put up should just be considered banked money in your mind. I.e. don't touch it. follow the regular strategy and forget the additional $300 is even there. it has no effect on playing this bonus, and no EV was removed when the percentage changed.

they are going to remove $300 from your cash-in whether you had to put up $600 to get it, or only $300 to get it. as i said, this is one of those weird instances where the zero WR makes this change in percentage completely irrelevant, other than the fact that you have to put $600 there. this is a bonus that needs to be looked at in dollars, not percentages. the dollars did not change, and they won't be changing it again soon as JtF suggests.

if you play it like it should be, you will have your $600 (plus win) back within minutes anyway, so it is not like regular casinos and pokerrooms where you have your money tied up for days (or a week).

just don't touch the extra $300 you had to put there. wipe it it from your mind, and pretend it was a $300, 100% match.

hope that clears it up

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The whole amount (deposit + bonus) should be wagered in one go for obvious reasons, why give time for the house edge to kick in, this is precisely why they have WR's in the first place. So as for the 50 % bonus vs the 100 % the 100 is infinitley better. As for ignoring the additional 300 dollars you have to deposit in order to get the max bonus of 300, do so at your peril !!

EG1) 100% Bonus: deposit 300 + bonus 300 = 600
Wager 600 win 600. Balance 1,200 - 300 = 900 for 600 profit

EG2) 50% Bonus: deposit 600 + bonus 300 = 900
Wager 600 win 600. Balance 1,500 - 300 = 1,200 for 600 profit

GREAT SO FAR !

EG3) 100% Bonus: deposit 300 + bonus 300 = 600
Wager 600 lose 600. Balance 0 - 0 = 0 for 300 loss

EG4) 50% Bonus: deposit 600 + bonus 300 = 900
Wager 600 lose 600. Balance 300 - 300 = 0 for 600 loss

This is a big change in negative EV for the same wager !
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Old 09-11-2004, 01:35 PM
GrannyMae GrannyMae is offline
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the max bet is $500. i don't know if that changes these figures any. you certainly are more informed than i am on this. however, it is the only place that has the bonus structure like this, so it is 50% or nada.

do you have advice on using VP for this?
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