Quick preflop quiz calling EP raises from the blinds

[crockett]

1. Ridcously Easy fold...come on?
2. Fold
3. Easy Fold

You seem to be stressing that UTG is laggish. In all these cases I could care less about UTG being laggish. Yup, it's a good chance he is raising with crap...

It's the people calling two cold that I'm not putting these marginal hands against.

From the SB against a raise I follow along with the major authors and play only big hands. The only hands I play are QJs and KJs.

From BB is a whole different story: I'll play down to 54s and even some of the one gaps down to 86s. My standards go up as the number of cold callers go down. With just two being the on the low end.

All the broadway cards you list are easy calls (in my book) ATo if there are just a couple in the pot and I'm closing is fine. With a bunch of cold callers I'll muck it. The Axs and Kxs are easy calls for me. Kx? What's that? I'm not playing any of that crap.

[Peter Harris]

1: fold, SB has me done bad. Would cap with AKs, QQ/KK/AA.

2: call with K6s 5-way (6-way if BB calls)

3: fold?? i wouldn't call A9o with 2 cold callers in between; would expect to be well behind.

Hypotheticals:
as low as 98s, not lower in SB (i would add 87s in BB probably)
yes to KJs, KTs, QJs, AJo. Not ATo in SB, yes in BB

in SB i'd call any Axs, no Axo, no Kx s or o.
in BB i'd call any Axs, ATo, any Kxs but no Kxo below KJ.

Comments?

Regards,
Pete Harris

[kiemo]

Only hand I see as a reasonable question is 2.

Personally I fold as playing Ax/Kx suited are slow money drains for me, but a strong argument could be made for calling.

[ThunderAces]

Hand 1 fold no ?
Hand 2 fold no ?
Hand 3 FOLD
I fold all mentioned hands in the SB
My general rule is if I can't three bet I lay it down from this position. Maybe call with some mid PP.
I fold the AQo and below.
Call with 45s and above
Call the KJs, KTs, QJs and the suited aces. Fold the rest.
Also wouldn't fall in love when flopping a big pair, fear ur kicker being no good.

[InchoateHand]

Muck all three.

[ThunderAces]

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2: call with K6s 5-way (6-way if BB calls)

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I think callin 2 bets cold on the button after the three cold callers is close to the same. It cost an extra half small bet, thats easily made up by the position improvement.
So thinking on these lines, what would you cold call on the button? K6s I muck.
Comments ?

[eric5148]

1 - EASY fold

2 - marginal fold, calling wouldn't be that bad

3 - fold, it's not the raiser I'm worried about, it's the coldcallers.

The hypotheticals: SB I call with suited connectors T9s or higher and KJs. If I knew the coldcallers would play any ace, I add AJo and A9s. BB I call with KJs, Axs, and AJ. If coldcallers play any ace I'll add AT.

[Trix]

1) I might muck it without the 3Bet. (fear of domination)
2) Call, he will bet about any flop prolly and you are getting 9.5:0.75 ~ 12:1
3) Muck, fear of domination.

Axs, 54s+ I call in BB after a raise and one or more coldcalls. Decent suited stuff is probably 7:1 and any2 around 9:1.
Most of the offsuit stuff I just muck.

[ThunderAces]

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you are getting 9.5:0.75 ~ 12:1


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where do you get this math?
In the same situation if u r the BB with 5 other players you call getting 11:1 so 12:1 is def wrong more like 5.25:0.75 or 7:1 right? Now u play the hand any different?

[Jimbobobb]

original raiser plus 3 cold callers = 8 sb
bb = 1sb
you = .5 sb
total = 9.5sb
what you have to put in: 1.5 sb
9.5:1.5
The error came by assuming .75 SB, when it's really .75BB, which is 1.5 sb

1. Fold - honestly I don't care where the SB is from, I'd still fold
2. Call - great checkraise opportunities and position on the pfr
3. Fold - if it was folded to me I'd 3-bet, but don't like the cold callers

From BB lots of suited paint, suited connectors 45 up and one gappers, PP's, AJ, QJ, KQ, KJ - I'd probably re-raise the suited versions.

From SB: suited A's, Suited K's down to about 8, probably some suited Q's. Suited connectors/one gappers 67 and up, PP's. AJ, KQ - probably reraise the suited versions.