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Old 09-03-2004, 04:46 AM
Warband Warband is offline
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Default SSH page 135 question

SSH page 135

Ah6h vs Qh6h

Ed explains that one of the reasons A6 is better is because you will win more often when you miss your flush but pair your top card.

What about Ah2h vs Kh2h?
There is more of a chance in many micro limit games that you opponents will be holding an Ace. Is there a case to be made that Kh2h>Ah2h because if you make your top pair the King will win more often as long as there is no Ace on the board (and nobody is holding AA)?


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Old 09-03-2004, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: SSH page 135 question

To be blunt, your post makes no sense.

A2s > K2s for obvious reasons like high card value and straight options.

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Old 09-03-2004, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: SSH page 135 question

i see what your getting at, tons of the micro players play anything with the ace, but that straight possibility raises your chances immensly, and makes it much more valuable multiway
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Old 09-03-2004, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: SSH page 135 question

You may chop the pot with an ace. Maybe not as low as A2, but a higher ace can win a kicker war. Hidden outs help.

The straight possibilities of A2 are a tad overrated.

K2 is worse than A2 because of the risk of an A hitting on later streets. You don't have that worry with A2 and with superior postflop skills you should be able to size up your position in the hand.

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Old 09-03-2004, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: SSH page 135 question

It seems like most who will play any Axo or Axs. Will also play just about any kxo. So I don't think it makes much difference here.
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:07 PM
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A2s is unconditionally a better hand than K2s. You can play with Pokerroom's EV stats to prove this to yourself.
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: SSH page 135 question

i see what your getting at, tons of the micro players play anything with the ace, but that straight possibility raises your chances immensly, and makes it much more valuable multiway

I recall SSHE saying that A6s is a marginally better hand than A2s, as the wheel possibility doesn't really restore the value lost by having no kicker. I'd look it up, but my copy is on loan.

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Old 09-03-2004, 07:29 PM
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but my copy is on loan.

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Just what Ed likes to hear. Another royalty bites the dust...
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:34 PM
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Just what Ed likes to hear. Another royalty bites the dust...

I knew someone was going to say that, so to reassure NPAEM, if he doesn't buy it by Christmas his sister and I are getting it for him. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Of course, he reads these forums occasionally, so the surprise factor just went down... Meh, maybe he'll get the hint and pick it up himself.

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Old 09-03-2004, 07:38 PM
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Of course, he reads these forums occasionally, so the surprise factor just went down... Meh, maybe he'll get the hint and pick it up himself.

I think you should buy it, mystery book borrower.
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