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Old 09-02-2004, 08:58 PM
SpiderMnkE SpiderMnkE is offline
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Default Medium overpair out of position vs prefop raiser

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saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($130.80)
Hero ($92.80)
MP ($12.25)
Button ($89)
SB ($42.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls $1, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $3, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($44.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets $20</font>, Hero ???
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: Medium overpair out of position vs prefop raiser

Thinks about folding the flop the flop. Doesn't. Folds the turn.
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:16 PM
SpiderMnkE SpiderMnkE is offline
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Default Re: Medium overpair out of position vs prefop raiser

was it wrong to bet out on the flop?
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: Medium overpair out of position vs prefop raiser

I usually bet the flop $12 at this point and surrender when raised. You could also try a check raise. I don't like betting 2/3 of the pot because it asks for AK to raise you and try to snatch it away.

This happens a lot to me, especially in the game I played in last year (much more agro than PP)
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: Medium overpair out of position vs prefop raiser

ok, I'll expirement with that... what if he just calls my pot bet.

Do I surrender to him on the turn?
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Old 09-03-2004, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: Medium overpair out of position vs prefop raiser

Smells like QQ or JJ to me. What he had?
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Old 09-03-2004, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: Medium overpair out of position vs prefop raiser

I folded... so no idea
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Old 09-03-2004, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: Medium overpair out of position vs prefop raiser

If he just called, then I would check the turn. He's unlikely to bluff at it with a missed AK so you can fold to any reasonable bet.
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Old 09-03-2004, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: Medium overpair out of position vs prefop raiser

Ill bet it here nearly everytime if checked to. The answer is, dont call the reraise on the flop without a clear plan, if your planning on folding to the turn bet save yourself 9$ and fold on the flop.
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