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Old 08-31-2004, 04:54 PM
bigslick98 bigslick98 is offline
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Default ATs in Middle Position

UTG limps and MP1 raises, do you call with ATs? A little background on the raiser and the game...The raiser saw a lot of flops but did not raise to often...He did raise qith QTs in early position though. It was $4/8 and there were 3-5 people seeing the flop on average. How many of you call with this hand?
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: ATs in Middle Position

2 big suited cards, and I may have the best ace. I play.
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: ATs in Middle Position

Fold

Maybe on the button with limpers in between, nbut not in this spot against a typical(fish) player.
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:00 PM
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I assume it's 4/8 live. It's an easy call for me.
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:02 PM
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How well do they play postflop?

EDIT: I'll just complete my thought here and be done. If they're terrible and I'm exceptionally confident that I'll get lots of callers, I'll call along. So that means like 99% of the time I fold.
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:02 PM
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Me too. Does anybody re-raise with it?
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: ATs in Middle Position

Pretty clear fold, I think. He might be slightly behind, but a lot of the time he's well ahead. Even though you said QTs is in the range of hands he raises, the fact that he does not raise very often makes me think he's somewhat tight and that your ATs is a fairly easy muck. Reverse implied odds are not in your favor.

Horribly weak-tight on my part?

Also, if you're going to play I think a 3-bet is much better than coldcalling.
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:08 PM
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Me too. Does anybody re-raise with it?

Why?

Its a great hand, when NOT facing a raise..

Muck this

Disclaimer: In this spot
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:11 PM
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How many people would have to call the raise before you would consider it a call?
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:12 PM
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How well do they play postflop?

EDIT: I'll just complete my thought here and be done. If they're terrible and I'm exceptionally confident that I'll get lots of callers, I'll call along. So that means like 99% of the time I fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

4/8 live is probably like 1/2 online. It's one step above the 2/4 game in most casinos. For me, it's like a 90% coldcall.
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