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#1
08-31-2004, 12:34 PM
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Re: SNG bubble strategy (slight vent)
Top Pair No Kicker is almost definitely good here against at least one of the 2 others in the pot. And since the big stack is probably just being a bully, there's a good chance you're ahead of both.
I think a push is warranted on this flop; if the big stack beats both of you, you're still ITM. If you win(and it's likely you're ahead) you have a better stack to attack with. And the bully knows he can't completely push you around. But I don't see how you can say the bully played this wrong. He forced out the best hand. That's what's fun about having the most chips. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] 
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#3
08-31-2004, 01:39 PM
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Re: SNG bubble strategy (slight vent)
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He forced out the best hand. That's what's fun about having the most chips. Why would you want to win a $0 pot? Lori [/ QUOTE ] To maintain a bubble situation where you can steal with abandon? That seems to be the only reason I can think of.
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#4
08-31-2004, 02:32 PM
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Re: SNG bubble strategy (slight vent)
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Why would you want to win a $0 pot? [/ QUOTE ] It wasn't a $0 pot. It was a T2400 pot. If you can push the best hand out and still beat the small stack, it's obviously good. But if you can choose between giving the pot to the bubble or to the 3rd place, giving it to the bubble isn't a bad choice either. This may very well be a +EV play, I believe.
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#5
08-31-2004, 03:06 PM
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Thanks, everyone!
I see my mistake now. I was assuming that the top stack had the same interest in getting rid of the bubble as I did - not so! I think I need to adjust my own ideas about how to approach the bubble when I'm the top stack. I usually try to use others in the pot to help me get rid of him, and don't push them off; I think those who suggested that bullying the short stacks is +EV make a very good point. I personally don't care who gets knocked out first (unless it's me, obviously!), but keeping short stacks around to steal their blinds is a nice option.
Thanks again, Mike
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#6
08-31-2004, 07:50 PM
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Re: Thanks, everyone!
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I see my mistake now. I was assuming that the top stack had the same interest in getting rid of the bubble as I did - not so! Mike [/ QUOTE ] Yes, exactly. And btw, while I think 600 is a little too much to pay, I think calling in this situation can be good. In the first place, sometimes big stacks do play ball. In the second, you very much want the short stack out. While it may not be in the big stack's interest to see him go, it is very much in yours.
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#7
08-31-2004, 09:53 PM
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Re: SNG bubble strategy (slight vent)
He has ace high, there is a reasonable chance its good. There is a lot of money in the pot, if there is even a 25% chance he will win against the lone allin player, its probably in his interest to knock out the other guy from the pot. He really doesn't care at all about knocking out the other player with his chip situation. What he cares about is maximizing his chances to win the pot...and making a tiny bet did this.
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#8
08-31-2004, 03:01 PM
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Re: SNG bubble strategy (slight vent)
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He forced out the best hand. That's what's fun about having the most chips. Why would you want to win a $0 pot? Lori [/ QUOTE ] I think you misunderstand. I want to win the T2400 when I don't have the best hand(probably when my Ace high is good too). And - I might spike my overcard, anyway. But in this situation, it worked out for me(since I'm speaking as the bully), because I've now got a good chance at that T2400 whereas before my raise I was behind.
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