Standard or waste of chips? pp 10/20

icepoker · #1 08-27-2004, 12:28 AM

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 3 handed) converter

Check-call the river? Unknown opponent, again I'm used to these people being overaggro and show two pair here but then again the dude caps the turn.

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB
Main Pot: 15 BB, between BB and Hero. > Pot won by BB (15 BB).

Results in white below: 
BB shows Tc Qh (straight, queen high).
Hero shows 9d 9h (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: BB wins 15 BB.

exist · #2 08-27-2004, 02:11 AM

when an opponent caps the turn it is usually because he likes his hand. he usually likes it enough to bet on the river if you check to him. i don't think the captheturnforafreeshowdown move is common enough to worry about. so if all you want to accomplish is getting the river bet, a check should do it. if you think your hand is good and want more money to go in to the pot, a check (and then raise) will accomplish that also. so i think a river check is often a good idea here.

Guido · #3 08-27-2004, 06:27 AM

I'm not sure, I don't think betting and calling a raise is better or worse than check-calling.

I would like to know what others think about this.

Guido

Zele · #4 08-27-2004, 08:47 AM

Maybe it's a cop-out, but I agree the decision is basically a wash.

I believe he has the best hand until he gets raised, at which point I'm about 50/50. On the other hand, BB will always bet if checked to, but I'm very sure Hero is beat if he CRs and BB 3-bets (so that plan is out.)

So in my mind, the decision of bet or check depends on which side of the 50/50 you're on, and is fairly inconsequential.

Nottom · #5 08-27-2004, 12:26 PM

I like the way he played it. I bet becasue I still think I have the best hand with my set. I figure his most likely hands are AJ, A8, A9, 88 or QT ... you beat most of those so I bet. When I get raised, I'm not so sure anymore so I call.

JRichman · #6 08-27-2004, 12:42 PM

Seems about right to me.

Joe826 · #7 08-27-2004, 01:43 PM

I like it. This looks like an obvious steal situation to BB, which would probably lead him/her to be overaggressive with a worse hand.