River Bluff, how'd I do?

[Hood]

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You did really well, because he folded and you won the pot uncontested [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The problem with asking for opinions on a move like this is it's totally depending on the player and the game. Now personally speaking I pretty much never cold bluff early on in the tourney. I find it's simply not worth the risk.

What do you put the guy on? To me it looked like he's on a straight or flush draw (that silly min bet on the turn just screams of "ok I'm drawing, if I bet maybe he'll just call and I'll get to see the river cheaply"). So that ten on the river could have made him the straight. And if he missed his draw, then you're Q high has a good chance of winning anyway. So I find that river bet way too risky personally.

I would have played the hand quite differently though - the flop is an easy fold for me. Thats 2x pot bet my UTG is scary. You haven't got anywhere near the odds to call this. Let him take it down and move on. And the turn raise is too small here - he's not going to fold here with 540 in the pot so I think you achieve nothing.

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Thanks for the reply. A couple things you mentioned here I totally didn't consider and are good points. One that he may have hit his straight draw; for some reason I just assumed he was on a flush draw (which now that I think about it is less likely since I hold two clubs) or I also considered that he might have just been taking a stab at the pot with overcards or low pair. I definitely should have considered the ten before pushing here.

Also the fact that I may have him beaten already with queen high, thus making a bluff on the river useless. I guess I just sort of read "hes on a draw" and didn't think specifically about what he might have. Maybe I should have value bet! (kidding)

I'm by no means a great player (yet?) and these are things I'll work into my game.

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Glad I could help. I'm really not meaning to sound like git here, but I would suggest not multi-tabling when you're working on your game. The call on the flop was really quite poor, and will really effect your results if you don't notice these things.

I'm doing exactly the same. When I first started to SNG, I always had 2-4 on the go because 1 was boring. But that didn't give me the chance to focus and improve my game, and I was making silly mistakes. I now just play one - it's dull, but I feel I'm thinking more about the game, making much fewer mistakes, and I think my results will be much happier because of it.

[Lori]

Glad I could help. I'm really not meaning to sound like git here, but I would suggest not multi-tabling when you're working on your game

Very true.

When considering bluffing, you have to consider what impact it will have on the game.
What are the overall impacts of the following results:

1) Losing all your chips.
2) Winning a small pot with a bluff
3) Winning a medium pot with a bluff
4) Winning a small pot with a made hand.
5) Winning a large pot with a made hand.

Whilst this all seems obvious, it is at the very heart of NL SNG poker, sometimes a chip doesn't carry as much $ value as others.

Imagine you get away with this bluff twice in three.
In cash terms, this would be a reasonable payoff (depending on where you really define that the bluff began), however in tourney terms, it means that one time in three you are out already.

When we are trying to get in the money around 50% of the time, giving 33% away for such a small pot makes your task much much harder.

Lori