Chasing the overcards

[Sent]

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (10.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

I felt my overcards were good combined with a backdoor flush on the flop, was it worth going to river??

-Sent

[Shargaas]

You certainly want to see the turn here, but unimproved, I probably would have folded the turn, unless UTG+1 was a known bluffer. Even so, one has to worry about the button too. I'd be interested in other opinions on what to do here.

[Entity]

The turn call looks slim to me. What read do you have on UTG+1? Since he raised the flop, I'm less likely to think that my overcards are worth full outs, so on the turn, I think you've got 3 outs to the best hand. You're getting 9:1 on your call, but you need 14.3:1. Even if you think they're worth slightly more, I don't think you can say that they're worth 6 outs, as you may be reverse dominated (KJ, QJ). At best I think you're getting 9:1 pot odds on a 10:1 call, and should fold.

Rob

[Ron]

Hi, maybe, I don't like to chaseING without the A. He might have JT oJ KJ [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Sarge85]

Bleah - the turn call is uber-thin.

Next hand please.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hi sent,

I think the flop play was fine, but the turn call was incorrect. If you have a good read on him and can put him on a semi-bluff I would c/r semi-bluff. Otherwise w/o improvement I would just have folded.

[afk]

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Hi, maybe, I don't like to chaseING without the A. He might have JT oJ KJ [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Generally, you want to be less inclined to chase overcards with an Ace because many players will play Ace-anything, thus making your ace outs dirty. I probably would have called the turn here, but that's one part of my game that I need to work on, I'm probably making a lot of thin calls that just aren't worth it in the long run.

[tiltaholic]

Hi-
I have absolutely no idea what to do on the turn.
I think I would fold. I think the main reason I'd be inclined to call is because I can see the river card was a king. But when your card falls on the river, why not raise?
-t

[btspider]

i think its fine. rainbow flop, no straight dangers, closing the action. anyone check-raise the river?

[ChromePony]

The turn call was a little close, but since you made it and I think you have to raise the river. If you aren't confident enough to raise when you hit a K or Q on the river then why are you calling the turn? Anyone else agree?