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Old 08-05-2004, 10:06 AM
cartoonsoldier cartoonsoldier is offline
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

As long as you the PF raiser and are cold-called by somone with an Ace on the board, you would be generally ahead.
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Old 08-05-2004, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

The two hands I mentioned account for the difference between AJ being + and - in my records. That's simply because I got unlucky twice.

I just thought it was wierd that the Galilee had an identical hand where a better read would have saved some bets.
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Old 08-05-2004, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

I know this doesn't prove anything, but AJo has been good to me, and here are my two rules for it.

1) Always raise preflop if nobody else has. Even from BB.

2) Never cold call preflop.

AJo
Hands: 92
Win%: 45.65
Won: $91.25
BB/Hand: 1.00
VP&IP: 85.87
PFR: 73.91
CCPF: 0
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Old 08-05-2004, 12:28 PM
WiredPear WiredPear is offline
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

1. It depends.
2. It depends.
3. It depends.
4. It depends.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Okay, here's my take, but some might disagree.

1. This depends on the limpers. What types of hands do they limp with? If they limp with crap, you should raise (also chance to raise out everyone behind you). Tend to raise if it has any chance of knocking players out.

2. Continuing depends if someone has cold-call already. It also depends on who the raiser is. Is it some idiot who raises with KTs? Or is it a rock who only raises with big cards? But this is more like a fold or re-raise situation. You shouldn't make a habit of cold-calling with AJ.

3. THis one is very situation dependent. How big is the pot? How many players are in? What's the texture of the board? What's the texture of the opponents? All of these things have to be considered. It's not a simple formula.

4. Hopefully, on the flop you took the lead in the hand by betting or raising. Again, if an overcard comes, it depends on how that changed the board. Is there now a straight or flush potential? Are your opponents the type to call with only K or Q overcard? Generally, you'll probably want to bet to protect your hand, especially if the pot is large. Someone will alert you if they have a K or Q. It's no shame to lose a bet here. It's a shame to lose the pot on the river when you didn't bet the turn to protect your hand.
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Old 08-05-2004, 12:33 PM
Uppercut Uppercut is offline
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

[ QUOTE ]
I know this doesn't prove anything, but AJo has been good to me, and here are my two rules for it.

1) Always raise preflop if nobody else has. Even from BB.

2) Never cold call preflop.

AJo
Hands: 92
Win%: 45.65
Won: $91.25
BB/Hand: 1.00
VP&IP: 85.87
PFR: 73.91
CCPF: 0

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow!! My play of AJo is the same philosophy as yours, but my results are just a bit different.
Hands: 82
Won -15.14
BB/100: -.185
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Old 08-05-2004, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

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2. In late position, should you call a preflop raise with AJ?


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Related question, if I have KQo or AQo in late position, should I call a preflop raise? And does it matter how many other players are involved?
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:19 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

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2. In late position, should you call a preflop raise with AJ?


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Related question, if I have KQo or AQo in late position, should I call a preflop raise? And does it matter how many other players are involved?

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If the raise is legit (meaning you don't know for certain that the player is a maniac), FOLD. Especially KQ.

If the raiser is a maniac, 3-bet. Especially if you're suited (though I know you were asking specifically about AQo and KQo).
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

KQo I will usually fold unless against a maniac as said.

AQo you can 3-bet or call. Remember many people will raise in EP with AJ too
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:38 PM
LowDown22 LowDown22 is offline
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

Well, this is most likely a leak in my game then, because I have been calling two cold a lot lately with AJo, AQo, KQo. Something to work on.

I'm also wondering about these same hands(AJo, KQo, AQo) in EP then. If I am first to act in EP should I raise with all of them? I used to raise them all, but lately have been starting to limp instead with AJo and KQo, what do you guys think?
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Old 08-05-2004, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: AJ, the silent killer.

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I know this doesn't prove anything, but AJo has been good to me, and here are my two rules for it.

1) Always raise preflop if nobody else has. Even from BB.

2) Never cold call preflop.

AJo
Hands: 92
Win%: 45.65
Won: $91.25
BB/Hand: 1.00
VP&IP: 85.87
PFR: 73.91
CCPF: 0

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Alright... went through my PT db.

Filtered for Any raise pf:

Hands: 87
Win%: 52.9
BB/Hand: .53
VP&IP: 100 (filtered)
PFR: 100 (filtered)
CCPF: 0 (filtered)

Raised first in:

Hands: 51
Win%: 62.75
BB/Hand: .62
VP&IP: 100 (filtered)
PFR: 100 (filtered)
CCPF: 0 (filtered)

No raise:

Hands: 327 (like I said... don't normally raise unless 1st in)
Win%: 30.28
BB/Hand: .10 (ugh)
VP&IP: 86.54
PFR: 0 (filtered)
CCPF: 23 (ugh... this will change)

Just food for thought... This has proven a little something to me.... Going to experiment w/ the following strategy for 1 month and see how it goes:

1. Raise.
2. Fold to Raise (unless in BB - SB?)
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