B&M $5/$10 NL Hand...

[Prof. Booty]

I wasn't involved in this hand (my friend was), nor am I a big NLHE player, I was just wondering how you all felt about the way this was played out (by all players).

$200/$700 min/max buy-in NLHE at a local B&M casino - 6 handed

Hero is SB with a stack of about $500-600 (can't really remember exactly how much)
Button has about $400
CO has them both covered (about $700-800)

Folds to CO who limps, button also limps. SB makes it $60 (or $65, forgive my memory) to go with 55, hoping to take it down right there (from what he tells me). BB folds, both limpers call.

Flop comes K 9 5 rainbow.

Hero bets $135 into the ~$200 pot. CO moves all-in for ~$700 (effectively putting both players all-in). Button calls.

Hero?

I am not as interested in results as I am in how each player played the hand (Hero for now, the other 2 when I post results).

[Unarmed]

I actually would have called.

You're beaten by KK or 99, and I would assume that KK would have reraised PF. (bad assumption perhaps) So you're looking at 99 only to beat you. Raiser could have AJ through AK, at any rate I think you almost definitely have him. Caller is a tough one. I'd put him exclusively on AK or 99, given the action probably 75% on the latter.

Given those odds you have a 25% chance of picking up $935 or a 75% chance of losing $300.

EV is +8.75.
Call.

Tweak the assumptions however you want but that's the logic I would use.

[kurtcobain]

CO would have to be a pretty bad (or tricky) player to limp w/ KK, then flat call a raise out of position before the flop (he still had the button to act after him on the flop). I dont think your hero has to worry about the CO, he probably had K9s or KQs, possibly w/ a backdoor flush draw. Furthermore, if he's the kind of player to play KK so slowly, he would certainly play a set of kings even slower.

I would, however, be worried about the button, who could easily have 99, though most players would raise w/ 99 on the button with the CO having limped. As long as the button is a solid player, I wouldn't have too much trouble folding. If he's weak, I'd call.

[Matt Flynn]

six-handed and he built a $200 pot, hits a set on an uncoordinated board and both other guys go all in for roughly 3x the pot? no decision making there. decision's already made.

first, would rethink raise preflop. just got very lucky they called. who cares about $20 when you have a hand you can go to the felt with easily when you hit the set? raise small if you must to get all the money in when you hit, but he wants to play that hand cheaply and against multiple opponents.

as for the flop, it's a no-brainer must call. there is nowhere near enough money behind to fold a set on that board.

matt

[Cheap Shot]

Not a fan at all of the pre flop raise out of position in the small blind. If you don't hit a set its extremely difficult to play this hand. You flopped the set - so the all in seems like a must call barring some read on the opposition.

[The Ocho]

I may be way off base here but... isn't the fact that, given the action, the uncoordinated board means that the possibility that bottom set is no good here is greater than if the board was a bit more uniform?

But, I'd still auto-call.

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[Prof. Booty]

When explaining the hand to me, my friend didn't say anything specific about certain reads he picked up from the CO or the Button. The way he explained it, he didn't seem to give the Button much credit for his play thus far, so I guess the read he had on him was that he was a somewhat weak player.

General consensus seems that the PFR was a poor decision (I seemed to feel the same). My friend must have sensed weakness, but as Matt pointed out, it doesn't seem worth it for how much is in the pot ($35 including his SB). I know if he didn't hit a favorable flop he wouldn't have been aggressive with it...which further emphasizes that it was probably the wrong move with just too much risk.

[Prof. Booty]

[ QUOTE ]
I wasn't involved in this hand (my friend was), nor am I a big NLHE player, I was just wondering how you all felt about the way this was played out (by all players).

$200/$700 min/max buy-in NLHE at a local B&M casino - 6 handed

Hero is SB with a stack of about $500-600 (can't really remember exactly how much)
Button has about $400
CO has them both covered (about $700-800)

Folds to CO who limps, button also limps. SB makes it $60 (or $65, forgive my memory) to go with 55, hoping to take it down right there (from what he tells me). BB folds, both limpers call.

Flop comes K 9 5 rainbow.

Hero bets $135 into the ~$200 pot. CO moves all-in for ~$700 (effectively putting both players all-in). Button calls.

Hero?

I am not as interested in results as I am in how each player played the hand (Hero for now, the other 2 when I post results).

[/ QUOTE ]

My friend never really debated calling, although he did think of the possibility that the Button had 99. But he knew he had to call.

CO had AA. Button had K9s. Turn brought a K and no miracle 5 on the river.

I am most interested in your guys' thoughts on how the other two played it, specifically CO. From what my friend said, he seemed like a solid player, but I really disliked his play PF and on.

[turnipmonster]

I think his play of the CO's hand postflop is going to be directly related to his misplaying of the hand preflop. I think he will win a lot of times there and be up against the SB's AK, etc, but once he gets called in two places he's toast. given that he called preflop, I think he should have flat called the flop there and fold to an allin. with short stacks and only one opponent he should be willing to back AA with his stack on the later streets, at least in my opinion, but when someone raises allin into 2 opponents I give him some credit and probably lay it down.

--turnipmonster

[Prof. Booty]

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