A hand my sister played

[Peter Harris]

and doing it on the flop swells the pot making it "correct" for people to call 2BB on the turn.

Although with 10BB in PF, pot's likely to keep them in till the bitter end anyway.

Hope she won!

Pete Harris

[Trix]

I would call.

[Octopus]

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Shouldn't the main focus switch from the biggest +EV move to doing your best to win that pot?

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Hmmm. I think you mean, "Isn't doing your best to win that pot the biggest +EV move?" Our focus should always be on making the biggest +EV move.

(For what it's worth, I call and wait for the turn card to resolve things a bit.)

[sfer]

I'm with Peter.

[sfer]

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Number 2. It gives Her a good indication of where she stands in this hand. Whos willing to cold call 2 bets?

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Okay, so Sis Daddy Cool raises and gets called in 6 spots because it costs, like, $0.02 to call. Where does she stand?

[sublime]

I change my mind
wait till the turn

I dont think raising the flop is a mistake, just not the best MOP.

[bunky9590]

If your little sister learnes anything , tell her to learn to raise that.

She cute or what?

[radek2166]

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Okay, so Sis Daddy Cool raises and gets called in 6 spots because it costs, like, $0.02 to call. Where does she stand?

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to which I said
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Unfortunetly at these stakes their are going to be alot of callers. The person who limped in utg with 67o. the lone Axo. The fool playing Kxs etc.


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I think poker at these limits is kinda like the lottery no real skill involved. You get two cards. 9 other players at the table get 2 cards. Then 5 random cards are layed out. In most games very few I.E. less than 1% actually understand the value of a C/R and when to do it or, any other concept discused in the books we read.

What they do understand is I got 27o i have a chance to win.


So IMHO. It really does not matter at these limits.

[WiredPear]

It's funny, I just finished reading that section. I went back and forth on the raise here or raise on the turn.

There are some differences here: the pot is much larger here, and there are straight draws with this example, and the field is huge.

This led to a question I wondered. At what point does the hugeness of the pot make you want to protect your hand even though your pot equity edge is small?

I'm not sure, but because of the oddness of this pot (huge field and huge pot) a raise now might be better because it increases your chances to win. You might lose some bets for sure. But because the pot is so large, it seems instinctively like a good move. But it's tricky.

[sfer]

Sorry, I didn't really understand what you were getting at so I'll give you my thoughts. Everyone is calling a flop raise correctly. I don't think raising the flop will give you any idea about how likely your hand is best. I think it's better to see the flop action, and if it looks favorable, raise the turn assuming a scary card doesn't fall. The pot will be smaller relative to the bet size and there will only be one card to come, increasing the chances that you can induce folds and decreasing the chances of being outdrawn. This is identical to what Bison wrote.

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