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Old 07-31-2004, 12:05 AM
mcj0014 mcj0014 is offline
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Default Should I have folded Top Pair 2nd best kicker on flop?

This was about 4th or 5th hand of tournament so no reads. I decided I was up against AK and let it go for an all-in bet.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t690)
BB (t785)
UTG (t780)
Hero (t770)
UTG+2 (t760)
MP1 (t1210)
MP2 (t635)
MP3 (t980)
CO (t710)
Button (t680)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, Hero calls t15, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to t30</font>, CO calls t30, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls t15, Hero calls t15, UTG+2 calls t15.

Flop: (t175) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets t750 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds, UTG+2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: t925
<font color="green">Main Pot: t175 (t175), won by UTG.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: t750 (t750), returned to UTG.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
No showdown. UTG wins t925. </font>
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Old 07-31-2004, 12:55 AM
eastbay eastbay is offline
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Default Re: Should I have folded Top Pair 2nd best kicker on flop?

What buy-in?

I don't think this is a ridiculously easy spot, because you very well may be ahead, but I think I fold here anyway. You only have 30 chips in the pot. It's a marginal situation, and I don't think there's any need to try to prove anything here. Fold and wait for a better spot.

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Old 07-31-2004, 01:02 AM
mcj0014 mcj0014 is offline
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Default Re: Should I have folded Top Pair 2nd best kicker on flop?

$5+$1, Eastbay. Thanks for commentary.
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Old 07-31-2004, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: Should I have folded Top Pair 2nd best kicker on flop?

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$5+$1, Eastbay. Thanks for commentary.

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It's been over a year since I played a $5+1. I'm not certain my advice is good in a $5+1.

Any $5+1 players want to comment?

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Old 07-31-2004, 04:35 AM
Potowame Potowame is offline
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Default Re: Should I have folded Top Pair 2nd best kicker on flop?

I play alot of the 5 sngls, Little bank roll [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

I would put this guy on a flush draw, mainly because it appears he wants everyone to fold. AK more than likley bets the pot or alittle over, but it is so marginal with the KQ I would fold. In these early stages of the low buy-ins you always have aleast 2-3 crazys. Its better to find a soild time to take thier chips, it should come up often.
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Old 07-31-2004, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: Should I have folded Top Pair 2nd best kicker on flop?

at 5+1 I call this, but I havent played a 5 in forever.
At the 30's I lay this down preflop from EP a lot of times (Not always)
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Old 07-31-2004, 10:19 AM
parappa parappa is offline
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Default Re: Should I have folded Top Pair 2nd best kicker on flop?

I'd fold. This screams 2 pair or set trying to chase out the flush draws to me. Even if he doesn't have a hand, you've not put many chips in and there's no reason to put your chips in in this kind of doubtful situation yet, because it's so early. Besides, if he's bluffing, you might get him to bluff at you again later.
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