5/10NL Hand v. AJo

[turnipmonster]

I was hoping he had AJo, because of the title.

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Many players will call 4% of the raiser's stack having the raiser covered and position on the raiser with a wide range of hands. I couldn't rule out an A, a J, or nothing based on the preflop call.

[turnipmonster]

I agree I like a push far better. nuts or nothing, baby.

--turnipmonster

[AJo Go All In]

by the way, i haven't read through the responses, but i have admitted to el diablo that i played this hand badly. i had a brain fart on the river and should have pushed. also, i don't advocate the preflop call, i just wanted to play a hand against el diablo.

anyway, my bad. i didn't read the responses, but if anyone defended my play, they're probably wrong.

[Ulysses]

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also, i don't advocate the preflop call, i just wanted to play a hand against el diablo.

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AJo and I talked a bit about this hand. My simple take on it was w/ these stacks, if he's going to call 40 pre-flop w/ QJo and position and flop AJJ when I have AK, he needs to get my whole stack. If he's not gonna bust me in this hand, he has to fold pre-flop.

After I call the flop, I think he should underbet on the turn, making it easy for him to push on the river. The way it went down, I think he still needs to push on the river.

[Ulysses]

Nero,

I pretty much agree w/ your whole post. I do think a river check is better than a weak lead v. this player, but I don't think that is an unreasonable thing to do sometimes.

The way this hand went down, I'd call the $250 w/ KK or QQ on the river.

I also think the $250 bet is pretty bad no matter what hand he has.

[turnipmonster]

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After I call the flop, I think he should underbet on the turn, making it easy for him to push on the river.

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especially against someone like you (who is going to glean more information from a turn check than a bet) I think a turn bet is mandatory. if he bets there it's much harder for you to fold on the river, and I think folding the turn is giving up too much.

it's funny how often the best course of action against a good player is to just bet your damn hand.

--turnipmonster

[schwza]

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After I call the flop, I think he should underbet on the turn, making it easy for him to push on the river. The way it went down, I think he still needs to push on the river.

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that's a pretty big overbet. is the idea that he should put you on something like AK and hope that you try to pick off his "bluff"?

[Esoteric]

I see your point and agree you line is better. Gives you extra money when he has nothing or Ax and saves your money if he has the J and you avoid getting pot committed. Nice move.

[Philuva]

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After I call the flop, I think he should underbet on the turn, making it easy for him to push on the river.

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I agree.

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The way it went down, I think he still needs to push on the river.

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You are going to call over $800 on the river?