SB vs BB: 3-bet turn? Fold the river?

steveyz · #1 07-22-2004, 07:15 PM

First orbit at the table, no read on opponent at the time.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $15.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button folds, SB completes, Hero raises, CO folds, SB calls.

Flop: (5 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
Main Pot: 13.50 BB, between SB and Hero.

potato · #2 07-22-2004, 07:24 PM

I don't mind the turn 3-bet. There is no hand SB has you are not drawing extremely live against, and he may have something you have crushed like A4. After he caps it, maybe not.

You never fold the river in a million years.

lostinthought · #3 07-23-2004, 09:52 AM

I think the 3-bet is fine, but with the turn ck-raise/cap, and his lead on the river,
you are probably beat.

DcifrThs · #4 07-23-2004, 10:26 AM

no way to play that differently heads up vs. the sb...sux you lost to the flush or flopped straight but there's no way i play that any differently.

-Barron

Eric P · #5 07-23-2004, 11:18 AM

A: if you want to, you can fold the river. B: you should not 3-bet the turn

AA: WHY DiD YOU RAISE PRE-FLOP, that is an outrageous play with AJo

steveyz · #6 07-23-2004, 12:01 PM

[ QUOTE ]
A: if you want to, you can fold the river. B: you should not 3-bet the turn

AA: WHY DiD YOU RAISE PRE-FLOP, that is an outrageous play with AJo

[/ QUOTE ]

The only person who voluntarily pot money in the pot is SB and he just limped. I think a raise here is automatic, esp since there's a pretty good chance the CO poster will fold giving me position for the rest of the hand.

badinfluence · #7 07-23-2004, 12:13 PM

A: You cannot fold the river heads up. you are getting 12-1 on a call in a heads up pot with an unknown.

B: I like the 3-bet on the turn. Lots of semi-bluffs and draw possibilities here and you still might have the best hand.

AA (if that is in order): The preflop raise is not outrageous. one voluntary player in ... i raise 50-75% of the time here

lostinthought · #8 07-23-2004, 02:18 PM

[ QUOTE ]
A: if you want to, you can fold the river. B: you should not 3-bet the turn

AA: WHY DiD YOU RAISE PRE-FLOP, that is an outrageous play with AJo

[/ QUOTE ]

This is an outrageous post. SB has done nothing to indicate any strength at all. Sure, if he limp-re-raises, I am a bit cautious. But more often then not, AJ is a favorite here.

Nightwish · #9 07-23-2004, 04:40 PM

Yikes, I disagree with everything you just said. I think the original poster played this perfectly.