AA vs. 4-straight on board

Illininate · #1 07-14-2004, 06:13 PM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Both opponents here played too many hands, but weren't otherwise notable.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, Button caps, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Button calls, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Button calls, Hero caps, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (13.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Button calls, Hero....

There's no way my AA is good here.... right?

SnakeRat · #2 07-14-2004, 06:16 PM

No way its good.

I dont even know if its worth a call to get a split, I am not very good at the math to figure it out.

I dont like your ace outs..

adanthar · #3 07-14-2004, 07:55 PM

Looks like at least one king is out and possibly as many as three...but there may not be any aces, and you're getting 18:1.

I don't know. I think I can find a call here with the implied odds if you hit a K (A's are worthless), though it's paper thin...but then again given the likely hands you're up against I wouldn't have bet the turn in the first place.

Illininate · #4 07-14-2004, 09:41 PM

So do you check/call the turn? Check/fold?

nepenthe · #5 07-14-2004, 09:43 PM

Clear fold. Sorry, but CO has KK or KA. Either way, 1 or 2 of your outs are gone. Next hand.

adanthar · #6 07-15-2004, 02:12 AM

[ QUOTE ]
So do you check/call the turn? Check/fold?

[/ QUOTE ] Check call for one, fold for two, and fold the river unimproved. With that board, other than A[board pair], the best hand that doesn't beat you is Q7o. This is, like, the opposite of a value bet.