Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-11-2004, 07:08 AM
MarkL444 MarkL444 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 548
Default JJ Hand - Could I have messed this up more?

2nd orbit and 4 tabling, so no reads.
SB has about 75 BBs.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB 3-bets, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

I got real pissed at myself right after this hand. Im pretty sure I messed up every street. What would you have done differently?
Thanks for any input.

Mark
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-11-2004, 11:50 AM
edthayer edthayer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 248
Default Re: JJ Hand - Could I have messed this up more?

I would have raised on the flop, and then folded if he bet into me when the king showed up on fourth street.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-11-2004, 02:12 PM
ScottTheFish ScottTheFish is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 245
Default Re: JJ Hand - Could I have messed this up more?

Flop is Q high, I'd say the only hands he would 3 bet with that you're behind are AA and KK, QQ is much less likely. He's much more likely to have AK. So raise the flop. If he 3-bets and leads into you on the turn when the King comes, you're probably beat, and can safely fold.

Raising the flop makes the rest of the hand much easier.

Also, if you're going to call the turn when a K comes, you have to call the river when the second K comes. He either has a King or he doesnt.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-11-2004, 04:42 PM
Kluddeludde Kluddeludde is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 105
Default Re: JJ Hand - Could I have messed this up more?

I would call the river. I think the rest of the hand is fine, though.

Kludde
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-11-2004, 04:48 PM
Kluddeludde Kluddeludde is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 105
Default Re: JJ Hand - Could I have messed this up more?

[ QUOTE ]
Also, if you're going to call the turn when a K comes, you have to call the river when the second K comes. He either has a King or he doesnt.

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually, I think he called the turn because he picked up an OESD. However, I would call the river here regardless. I see lots of crazy 3-bets with crazy hands that I am willing to pay off one more bet without a read on SB.

Kludde
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-11-2004, 05:12 PM
Bandorn Bandorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 81
Default Re: JJ Hand - Could I have messed this up more?

Raise the flop, take control of the betting. Yuo have position, use it.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-11-2004, 05:26 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 27
Default Re: JJ Hand - Could I have messed this up more?

If I didn't cap preflop, I would play it like this (although I would have raised the turn if the K didn't hit.)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.