How do you do it?!?!?!?

[vetman81]

I have recently started playing on party, and I have been playing in 10+1 SNGs. Every single one I have played in - about 15 so far- I have suffered a bad beat. How do you deal with the constant bad beats that come with the sh*tty play here? Even on the ones I have won I have had to come back from a terrible beat. I'm about to pull my hair out dealing with these dumbasses. Any advice would be appreciated.


Sorry, just needed to vent.

[Jurollo]

Just remember this. The same hands you are losing now to dumbassess will make you a crapload of money in the long run. Keep making +EV plays and you will be fine.

[vetman81]

I know, but in the short run it is VERY frustrating.

BTW, I meant no offense to any dumbasses out there. I shouldn't have compared you to the PP players...

[Jurollo]

Just roll around on your bed laughing with the money you make from PP to comfort yourself during the bad beats.

[stupidsucker]

Short runs are very frustrating indeed. AND they seem worse during the run then they really are. Relax, review your game for any leaks, feel confident that the numbers eventually catch up in the long run. I always think about casinos. Sure some one makes a huge take here and there and beats the house for thousands of dollars.. DO they fret? Hell no. They offer them free dinner too, and maybe a free room. Come on back sir.

Consider yourself the house. You are the one playing the odds for long run +EV.. Relaxing is truely needed IMO, because playing tense can mean playing bad. You can start playing scared or playing too loose.

Always keep a proper bankroll on hand, because a bad run in a short bankroll just compounds the issue.

Hope this helps some. We have all been there.

[FyrFytr998]

There really is nothing to do except deal with it. I know how you feel. It's easy enough to get the money back at a ring game (Provided they don't cut and run.), but hard if you suffer badly at a SNG. That's the most frustrating part of tourneys. You might not get the chance to win back your money from the bad players. Just know it happens to everyone at one time or another. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[AleoMagus]

While I agree with all that has been said so far in this thread, and I particularly like the Casino example, I think there is one thing not being said.

Perhaps you are not a long run winner.

If you are, and KNOW that you are, disregard this post.

If you don't know that you are, you need to start analyzing those beats and trying to figure out if there was a better way to have played those hands. As almost any low stakes Party player can tell you, if you took notes on all your beats, it would look like a big list of things like:

AA cracked against TT
KJ steal called down and lost to J9
66 push shortstacked called down by TQ which spiked T on turn
and so on....

Even when you have an edge, you will eventually be beaten and if you are going to a showndown too often in a SNG, you will find that your profit goes down even when you always seem to have the upper hand.

Perhaps you need to start pushing people off hands more often, or otherwise finding better ways to get them to laydown with stop and go plays, or more agressive betting.

Another key is going through their hands and asking if they were really wrong to play the way they did. Particularly when the blinds are huge, you will find that two players can both be +EV in a hand, despite one having an edge over the other.

Just some thoughts

Regards
Brad S

[vetman81]

AA cracked by AT, QQ by 86o, etc.

I feel like I am a long term winner. I won $1.85 in a UB freeroll last November and turned it into over 3K in the following few months. I've been playing on this money ever since then. I know just from reading these forums that there are many better players than me, but I feel I am better than most people I play against at these limits. However, since I am an unemployed college student, I haven't had a chance to build my bankroll because I often have to take money from it for non poker related expenses.

After the first day on PP, I more than doubled my $100 deposit, but haven't been doing as well since then. I have only been playing on Party since Wednesday though, but with all the talk of how fishy it was I had to try it out.

Thanks for all of the replies. I realize this happens to everyone, and I just needed to vent.

[Cosimo]

Have you been playing NL SNGs the whole time? It's quite different than limit ring games. Besides being no-limit, one also has to play shorthanded, and it's a tournament.

To win a tournament, you need to increase your stack from 1000 chips to 10,000. That's a 10-fold increase. The only way to do that is to win 4 all-ins, in a row, without losing any. You're going to get beat by bad hands. If you're playing good, the only way to not get first in a SNG is for your KK to hit AA, or a bad beat.

[MicroBob]

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To win a tournament, you need to increase your stack from 1000 chips to 10,000. That's a 10-fold increase. The only way to do that is to win 4 all-ins, in a row, without losing any. You're going to get beat by bad hands.


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i have won MANY sng's without winning 4 all-in's. did you really mean to say it is the ONLY way to win??
this is grossly incorrect.


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If you're playing good, the only way to not get first in a SNG is for your KK to hit AA, or a bad beat.

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you're kidding, right??