Keep pushing or slow down?

TXTiger · #1 07-07-2004, 05:07 AM

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP1 caps, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (21 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG calls, MP1 3-bets, MP3 folds, Button calls, Hero caps, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (19 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 raises, Button calls, Hero ???

Do you raise or call? Button is extreme calling station. I've seen MP1 turn over 2 hands, both were solid. I'll post the rest of the hand soon.

Thomsen · #2 07-07-2004, 06:09 AM

he is a solid player - slow down - he is not betting like that because he hopes u will fold, he is betting to get more money from you looks like 99 - maybe AA.

nykenny · #3 07-07-2004, 10:28 AM

turn: just call and hope he is over playing QQ JJ. even tho button is drawing, there is no reason to punish him if you are also likely behind the MP (shouldn't he "know" you have an big over pair too, by now?).

TXTiger · #4 07-07-2004, 10:38 AM

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP1 caps, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (21 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG calls, MP1 3-bets, MP3 folds, Button calls, Hero caps, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (19 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 raises, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (27 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 27 BB
Main Pot: 27 BB, between Button, Hero, UTG and MP1.

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Kh Kc (one pair, kings).
UTG shows Ad 2d (one pair, twos).
MP1 shows Tc Th (one pair, tens).
Button shows 4s As (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Hero wins 27 BB. 

It sure felt like I was behind. So I wussed out. I felt like going into check call mode was right, but I may have left 4-6 bb on the table by slowing down. I had not seen MP1 do anything stupid. I hated the Q on the river since it seemed my only hope was QQ. This hand has been bugging me because I left so many bets out there.

Zele · #5 07-07-2004, 10:45 AM

You can't raise here. Just call it down.

Though I might have considered just calling his flop 3-bet and c/r'ing the turn if an A doesn't drop.

Cluel3$S · #6 07-07-2004, 10:47 AM

Does he respect your 3-bet? If so I would say he has AA and puts you on AA or KK. Or is he just the type of "solid" player that would cap with 9's? Either way you lost and played horrible IMO.