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Old 07-06-2004, 03:17 PM
LRAO LRAO is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t know how to classify this hand (bad bead, major suck out, ??

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You shouldn't be cold calling with this hand even against a LAP. 3-bet him if you can isolate him, fold otherwise. On the flop, raising is ok, but it definitely will not "drive out" the other T, even T2o is going nowhere. Raise this flop if you believe that you won't be bet into again on the turn, otherise wait until the turn to raise to get more money in.

I have no idea what SB was attempting to do, but he played this horribly. You lost a lot less money than you should have.

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I agree with you in that:

A. I shouldn't have called and
B. I should have 3-bet to isolate.

But to "justify" A., I will say that I did not have a lot of respect for him.

I felt that the SB was holding some sort of paint/draw. I felt he had the J based on HOW he checked the river. I felt a check-raise attempt was on the horizon.

When I didn't get re-raised on the flop, I knew that the pre-flop raiser didn't like the flop, but still had a strong hand. I had the SB on a KJ, or Tx.

Hope this thought process doesn't upset too many of you.
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Old 07-06-2004, 03:25 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t know how to classify this hand (bad bead, major suck out, ??

you don't get it...you're not skilled enough to play that marginal hand even if you don't respect the raiser..FOLD!!!

on the flop you're STILL not understanding that given you're read you need to CALL NOT RAISE!! you want them to hit their draws and you make them think they're getting a good price...they're not because the draws are drawing dead to your boat...this way you'll risk little (very safe flop for your hand) in order to gain much (excessive action on later streets from hands that wouldn't have given it w/o a flop call--they'd suspect a boat quicker and give less action with their completed draw after you raise the flop)...you're just not getting it...

please go and study, play lower limit, and listen to what those who have given you advice had to say.

-Barron
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Old 07-06-2004, 07:19 PM
nolanfan34 nolanfan34 is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t know how to classify this hand (bad bead, major suck out, ??

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I felt he had the J based on HOW he checked the river. I felt a check-raise attempt was on the horizon.

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Maybe I missed it, but I'm assuming this was live play? If not, then I'm wondering how you could tell this.

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Hope this thought process doesn't upset too many of you.

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You're not upsetting anyone. People here are trying to help you, not flame you, when they suggest posting hands like these in the micro or small stakes forum. But if you're going to post here, you better bring your big league fastball, cause this forum is like playing in the show.

That's why I don't post hands here, and post them down in AA ball in the micro forum when I post my limit hands. I play goot. But not goot enough for the mid-high forum.
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Old 07-06-2004, 07:53 PM
LRAO LRAO is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t know how to classify this hand (bad bead, major suck out, ??

Yes, it was live play. I haven't tried online yet. Don't plan to, either.
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