Question on paying taxes on poker winnings. - Page 10

TRWIII · #91 07-04-2004, 04:02 AM

The problem here, as Ive always seen it, is that the very idea of a taxing a millionaire 35% and that supporting the poor with the tax money is un-American. Yeah I said it.

The American dream, as I understand it, is to work hard and become successful. It is not to work hard for the privelenge of having a larger and larger percentage of you're hard work taken to support people who have given up on the dream.

America is a country founded on the following two ideas: democracy and free-market capitalism. The first one works alright, but the second one is rapidly disintegrating.

America won the Cold War in the sense that we defeated the political idea of Communism and Democracy triumphed. The problem is that we are losing the Cold War of free-market capitalism vs. collective socialism.

The entire idea of wealth redistribution if morally reprehisible to the American Ideal. It is the burgeoning triumph of the dictatorship of the poor and disillusioned, to whom socialism is targetted.

Socialism stunts growth by suppressing creativity and innovation. Far too many have given up, knowing that that giving up is an option, because the government will take care of them. Our America is starting down a path where those who live the American Dream are exploited to the point of absurdity to support those who believe they are entitled to the fruits of the hard work of others simply because they hold out their hands for it.

Dont mistake me. I have nothing agaist helping those who need it, and I have nothing agaisnt private charities doing it. I have a problem with Americans voluntarily sacrificing the American Ideal by giving up and demanding that others support them because they cant or wont do it themselves.

If America doesnt wake up, then Marx will have won, and his prediction will come true. Socialism will be the next evolutionary step from capitalism, because the Americans seem to want it.

God Bless America.

/end rant

TRWIII

RiverMise · #92 07-04-2004, 04:49 AM

What happens if you get audited? They can look and see u cashed out $X from a site and put $Y into a site. What if you then claim that you lost $Z at the local casino. How would you prove this? Obviously there is no paper trail or way to prove using receipts etc... What would one do here?

Kevroc · #93 07-04-2004, 11:24 AM

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What percentage of welfare recipients, prison inmates, and other tax-dollar-absorbing parasites would you say are "American", andNow, what percentage of the tax dollars wasted by these parasites is wasted by Americans, and what percentage by foreigners?

You seem to think the foreigners are an immediate threat that should be dealt with. Would you say over 50% for the foreigners for either of the above questions?

Then why should this happen: "the government decides to crack down on all the g*dd*mn foreigners that are cheating on their taxes", instead of say, cracking down on the goddam Americans that are cheating on their taxes? what percentage are "foreign"?

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I'm sorry, I'm not getting your point here. This is not about how the dollars are spent or who the tax-absorbing parasites are. I'm commenting on the blantant beating of taxes that is going on here. I think you are taking my comments as racism. I want to live with a mix of people isn't that what America (and especailly NY) is supposed to be. This is not the case here, the city has been cut up into sections, each race claiming pieces of their own (by hook and by CROOK). If it makes me sound racist I'm sorry but, I'm the one who has to walk ten blocks to get a newspaper that is printed in English. But, that is not the subject of the post, the subject is taxes and I know plenty of American born citizens probably cheat as well. It's just hard for me to talk about poker taxes when much bigger slices of tax pie are being shorted by people with agendas. Perhaps, these are just people who found a loophole or a way around paying their proper taxes and I should direct my rage towards myself for being such a slacker and not doing my homework and finding out how to bend Uncle Sam over myself.

BTW, thanks for the outlet to release this monkey from my back... I'm up 140BB in past two days! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

driller · #94 07-04-2004, 08:11 PM

Although I agree that everyone should pay their lawful taxes, it is unfortunate the way the tax code is written re: gambling income. By the way, your employer pays you with BEFORE tax money and deducts your salary, etc from his income.

driller · #95 07-04-2004, 09:28 PM

If you are a resident of the good ol' USA, you have to pay US taxes on most income, including gambling winnings, regardless of where those winnings were earned. Some countries don't tax gambling winnings, and some countries don't tax foreign earnings. But the USA is not one of those countries! Still, we don't exactly have to build fences to keep out people in.

But to the point I'm interested in: do online winners detail every session as the tax code seems to require?

umdpoker · #96 07-05-2004, 03:48 AM

"Obviously, one is enjoying the fruits of the environment created by this Government more than the other, and by taking an equal flat dollar amount from each, one has to pay far more than the other in Lifestyle choices.
Not "fair" at all."

i absolutely agree. if you can't afford a car, why should you pay as much as the next guy for the roads?

Warik · #97 07-05-2004, 10:54 AM

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i absolutely agree. if you can't afford a car, why should you pay as much as the next guy for the roads?

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If you aren't eligible for welfare and Medicaid, why should you pay for it?

Franchise (TTT) · #98 07-05-2004, 04:40 PM

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i absolutely agree. if you can't afford a car, why should you pay as much as the next guy for the roads?

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How exactly is it you're getting around if you don't own a car?

Are you taking magical buses that don't travel on the roads? Or are you biking on dirt paths? Why should people pay for your subways and trains if they don't use them?

By the way, the biggest mover of cargo in the United States? Overwhelmingly trucks. Don't build roads in your city and see how good your quality of life is going to be.

Franchise (TTT) · #99 07-05-2004, 04:47 PM

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This is not the case here, the city has been cut up into sections, each race claiming pieces of their own (by hook and by CROOK). If it makes me sound racist I'm sorry but, I'm the one who has to walk ten blocks to get a newspaper that is printed in English.

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Honestly? I'd take the white-controlled part of Manhattan if I had to choose a part of NY to control. Think about all the minority foreigners who have to drive an hour or two to eat some cuisine from their home country. I don't doubt you've been inconvenienced, but you need to put it in perspective.

For what it's worth, you say you weren't trying to be overtly inflammatory or racist, so I'll respect that, and let's drop this line. But you really should go reread the first two posts you made in this thread.

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BTW, thanks for the outlet to release this monkey from my back... I'm up 140BB in past two days! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Nothing like winning to change the mood!

Kevroc · #**100** 07-05-2004, 04:57 PM

They don't hafta drive two hours to get cuisine from their motherland. I was saying that whole neighborhoods are firmly in control. They need only walk outside their door and purchase their meals from their fellow countrymen (who are probably not paying taxes) [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Okay, thats my last word, its not worth b!tching about because it isn't going to change anything. It was fun talking about it though. Hey, if ya plan a trip to NYC I'll by ya a Sierra Nevada.

A great American ale!!!