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Old 07-04-2004, 01:16 AM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default KTs and a turn check

Fairly new to the table, so no great read on 3-bettor--seemed rational thus far.

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Preflop: Rico is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Rico raises</font>, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Rico calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Rico calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Rico checks.

River: (4.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Rico calls.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 6.16 BB, between BB and Rico.</font>
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Old 07-04-2004, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: KTs and a turn check

Did he show you J10?
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Old 07-04-2004, 01:21 AM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: KTs and a turn check

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Did he show you J10?

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nope

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Old 07-04-2004, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: KTs and a turn check

How about KJ?

I think he decided you didn't have the Q when you checked
through the turn, so he was value betting his K on the river.
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Old 07-04-2004, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: KTs and a turn check

It's tough to say since its HU and you have no read. I'll take a stab that he showed you AQ.

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Old 07-04-2004, 01:45 AM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: KTs and a turn check

zuvis:

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How about KJ?


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3-betting me preflop from the blinds with KJ? nope. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Old 07-04-2004, 01:46 AM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: KTs and a turn check

Haupt:

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I'll take a stab that he showed you AQ.

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nope.

But considering that i *figured* him as a rational player, did I play this right?

--Rico
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Old 07-04-2004, 01:54 AM
Haupt_234 Haupt_234 is offline
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Default Re: KTs and a turn check

Well, since he is rational, he will most likely 3-bet preflop with:

99,1010,JJ,QQ,KK,AA, AK, AQ

You are ahead of: 99, 1010, JJ

You are behind: QQ, KK, AA, AK, AQ

So, you are a 5:3 dog in the hand preflop. I think you played it fine here since you will be behind a majority of the time given this flop.

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Old 07-04-2004, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: KTs and a turn check

1st off, let me apologize for J10s - not exactly the best preflop hand heads up - especially since he was rational. i misread the preflop action as the flop action.

With that said, 99 makes sense. He wanted to 3 bet a coin flip putting you on overs. He puts out a feeler bet on the flop and you only call. Me thinks that he thinks you would have raised AK but called AQ, KK, QQ, KQ to pop it on the turn. He checks the turn expecting you to bet, you check, he catches his 9.

Other scenario has him with AA or AK thinking that the call on the flop meant he was going to be raised on the turn and he was planning on check calling the rest of the way. you check off, and he suddenly realizes he is in front and bets for value on the end.

So, if he has 99 and you raise the flop, bet the turn he might? lay it down. but that is the only one that I see going away. Otherwise, he did your value betting for you on his JJ 1010, AJ or you lost the minimum

could be way off base on this one, but my $.02
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Old 07-06-2004, 09:36 AM
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BB showed JJ, and MHIG.

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