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Old 06-02-2004, 02:58 AM
baggins baggins is offline
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Default Re: Greg won\'t be as good as Moneymaker

yeah. Omaha (8 or Hi) is way better for TV than Razz.

Community Cards, IMHO, account for a significant degree in the 'watchableness' of televised poker (along with the holecards cams...).
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Old 06-02-2004, 07:49 AM
Ralph Wiggum Ralph Wiggum is offline
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Default Re: Greg won\'t be as good as Moneymaker

Pokerstars accounts for four of the players at the final table. They also account for about 12% (1-in-8) players in the tournament. I'm sure they'll get a tremendous boost, when their players are seen everywhere w/ their Stars' gear at the WSOP on ESPN.
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Old 06-02-2004, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: Greg won\'t be as good as Moneymaker

I'm just glad I normally play at Paradise, and not PokerStars.
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Old 06-02-2004, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Greg won\'t be as good as Moneymaker

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Is coverage of the Razz final table with a prize of (75,000?) really going to "woo" the audiences?

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Uh, yeah. It will.

You know those pool tourneys they show where the winner gets $25,000? "Normal people" think that $25,000 is a ton of money. Normal people can't understand poker or the relatively large sums of money trading hands in the poker world.

You hear people saying things like... "That Doyle Brunson must have a great job to be able to play in poker games that big... I wonder what he does?"

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Old 06-06-2004, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: Greg won\'t be as good as Moneymaker

You suck, shut up.
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Old 06-17-2004, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Greg won\'t be as good as Moneymaker

This is a pretty cool thread. Lots of interesting ideas. The thing that hasn't been mentioned is the editing factor. Rememebr that ESPN will craft the storylines just like they did last year. Clearly Moneymaker was the star they were looking for and he had the story to tell. Does Fossilman? What play will they give Harrington and Furgeson? What about all the starts that went out early? It will be intersting to see how this year's story shapes up and how audiences will receive it.
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Old 06-17-2004, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Greg won\'t be as good as Moneymaker

To go a step farther, I think the actual name "Moneymaker" adds tremendous zeal to the aura of his win.
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Old 06-19-2004, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: Greg won\'t be as good as Moneymaker

Nobody has mentioned the size of the first prize as a huge lure to new fishies...
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Old 06-19-2004, 03:07 PM
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I never thought Moneymaker himself was responsible for any of the growth in poker. It was the ESPN coverage of his tournament win, the WPT, and internet poker which is responsible for 90%+ of the growth in poker. Anybody else could have won the 2003 WSOP and I think everything would be pretty much the same today.

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I totally agree with this.
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Old 06-19-2004, 03:15 PM
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I'm pretty sure Fossilman just plays on PokerStars, not UB and not PP, right? I hope so, YAY for Pokerstars!!!!!! I hope pokerstars grows and those other stupid lame companies go banrktupt.

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Yeah but didn't Moneymaker just play for Stars as well? That didn't seem to stunt Party's growth.
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