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Old 06-14-2004, 01:36 AM
sthief09 sthief09 is offline
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

2) Fairly aggressive UTG raises, you hold 99 UTG+1.

Fold.


what if you were on the button? just wondering if your main concern here is not having a great hand, or running the risk that you're cold called.

3) It is folded to you on the button, you hold K8o. BB is extremely tricky and defends his blind religiously, SB is tight.

Raise


how do you play this? do you call him down unimproved if he shows any aggression?

5) KTs UTG.

Call or raise


I agree that it should be played, but can you explain the merit in raising it? is it because you'll be cold-called by worse hands? what if the tables consisted of tight players who don't play well post-flop?


6) Tight UTG raise, 1 cold call from a fish, you hold KQs on the button.

Fold regardless of the blinds


what if UTG plays predictably? what if you're playing live and both blinds call before you get a chance to act? is being dominated in a 5-way pot that bad? would you prefer a better drawing hand that's less likely to consist of a card in you opponent's hand, like QJs or JTs?

9) Tight UTG raise, 2 calls from LAGs, you hold deuces on the button.

Call


what if both blinds fold out of position? still a call?


if you or anyone else can answer these questions for me, it would be very much appreciated!
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Old 06-14-2004, 10:58 AM
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Default My answers - make of them what you will

1) 88 after 2 folds.

Call. Raise if the table was a bit tighter.

2) Fairly aggressive UTG raises, you hold 99 UTG+1.

Fold.

3) It is folded to you on the button, you hold K8o. BB is extremely tricky and defends his blind religiously, SB is tight.

Raise, I think there's value here.

4) 44 UTG.

Call.

5) KTs UTG.

Call.

6) Tight UTG raise, 1 cold call from a fish, you hold KQs on the button.

a) Both blinds are loose. b) Both blinds are tight.


I'd still fold both times, I don't like my position even if both players came in from the blinds, I'd want the other players in the hand to be between me and the raiser.

7) 77 in your BB after an extremely aggressive button open raises and SB folds.

I'd just call.

8) 22 in MP after 4 folds.

Fold.

9) Tight UTG raise, 2 calls from LAGs, you hold deuces on the button.

Call.
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Old 06-14-2004, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

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this reminds me of one time in a live 10/20 game where I open raised deuces on the button. the BB called and bet into me on an extremely coordinated flop. I stupidly raised him, then caught runner runner quads. deuces are a great heads up hand, as long as you're sure that the turn and river will both be deuces.

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Yeah, most hands are stronger when you know you'll hit runner runner quads.
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

1) 88 after 2 folds.

Call or raise. If you can create a strong image in such a game, I'd lean toward raising. I'm not folding.

2) Fairly aggressive UTG raises, you hold 99 UTG+1.

Fold.

3) It is folded to you on the button, you hold K8o. BB is extremely tricky and defends his blind religiously, SB is tight.

Rasie.

EDIT: "Pots are 4 or 5 handed on average" regardless of the raises, I change my answers to call in 4&5
4) 44 UTG.

Call

5) KTs UTG.

Call.

6) Tight UTG raise, 1 cold call from a fish, you hold KQs on the button.

Fold, forget the blinds, it's more about the TAG-UTG

7) 77 in your BB after an extremely aggressive button open raises and SB folds.

Easy call.

8) 22 in MP after 4 folds.

Fold.

9) Tight UTG raise, 2 calls from LAGs, you hold deuces on the button.

Call.

Peace,
Joe Tall
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

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6) Tight UTG raise, 1 cold call from a fish, you hold KQs on the button.
Fold regardless of the blinds

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Is the important part here "Tight", or "UTG", or is just "raise" enough to fold KQs on the button? I play 2/4, not 5/10, but this is one of the few hands I'll consider cold calling with. Am I giving up a lot with that play?
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

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1) 88 after 2 folds.


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Raise. I want to take the lead here.

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2) Fairly aggressive UTG raises, you hold 99 UTG+1.


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Turbo muck.

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3) It is folded to you on the button, you hold K8o. BB is extremely tricky and defends his blind religiously, SB is tight.

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I fold here. I'm as aggressive as the next guy, but I want a bit more to go on than K8o. If I'm feeling frisky, I raise, I NEVER CALL HERE.

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4) 44 UTG.


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Call, if its always 4 to 5 handed.

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5) KTs UTG.


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Mucksville.

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6) Tight UTG raise, 1 cold call from a fish, you hold KQs on the button.

a) Both blinds are loose. b) Both blinds are tight.



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Fold in both cases. I need Aces or Kings here to play.

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7) 77 in your BB after an extremely aggressive button open raises and SB folds.


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I reraise, screw him. My blind is not his for the taking. I'm gonna plant the seed of the three bet in his mind for the next time he decides to blind steal. (Oh, and I probably have the best hand going)

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8) 22 in MP after 4 folds.


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I have to muck here not enough potential action for my small pair/flopped set to really get paid on.

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) Tight UTG raise, 2 calls from LAGs, you hold deuces on the button.

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Its close for me between call and fold. with the presence of the lags in the pot and i have hella position. I probably call with the notion of "no set, no bet"

Gregg
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

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If fairly aggressive means he'll raise with too many hands then why not call this one?

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You really want to coldcall the loose UTG raise with the whole field to be heard from with pathetic position on not only the field but the raiser as well?

I would three bet before I'd call here.
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

I reraise, screw him. My blind is not his for the taking.

what would the SS forum do without Bunky?

also, can everyone tell me why you don't like 99 against an aggressive raiser? what if you were on the buttona dn it was folded to you after he raised? is it the fact that he's UTG or the fact that you could end up with people cold-calling your 3 bets?
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

For me its because you have hurrendous position, worst on the table, and although he maybe aggressive you're not in a position to isolate.
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

I will three bet there everyday and twice on Sunday. Moreover, if I'm in a live game I bet the flop dark.

Consequently, I get a walk through more tahn a lot of other players do when they know a steal could be a fold, or could be a three bet.

You feeling lucky punk? Go ahead, I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU to raise my blind again.

Oh, and yes I am serious.

Position, schmosition. Calling there is so weak its pathetic. And what does position do for you facing a three bet preflop and a flop bet. BTW, I auto bet the flop if I flop a set, overpair or three overcards hit. I'm betting , he doesn't know I have 77.
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