To Call or to Raise - The River Question

Blindfolk · #1 06-06-2004, 04:00 PM

MP had just taken his seat a few hands back, so no definite reads.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, Button calls.

River: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Button folds, Hero 3-bets, MP caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB
Main Pot: 18 BB, between Hero and MP. > Pot won by MP (18 BB).

Results in white below: 
MP shows Qh Tc (straight, king high).
Hero shows Js Kh (two pair, kings and jacks).
Outcome: MP wins 18 BB.

Zeiros · #2 06-06-2004, 05:13 PM

You had shown aggression through the entire hand. MP can't hope to force you out of the hand with a bet so is unlikely to be bluffing -- he has just made something on the river. The only question is how good is his hand.

More often than not MP will have been calling down with top/second pair and has rivered two pair. Despite the possible straight on the board I'd definitely raise away; more often than not those monster hands aren't out there to get you.

I would have played this hand in an identical manner.

As per usual, any criticisms of my lines of thinking are more than welcome!

AtlBrvs4Life · #3 06-06-2004, 05:24 PM

With the 9 coming and his raise, you have to think of what he could have possibly been calling you down to the river with. The open ended straight draw with Q10 is a good possibility. For this reason, I would just call.