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Old 05-29-2004, 11:42 PM
ewile ewile is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars or PartyPoker

I think that you should start no higher than the Party .50/1.00 tables, and possibly lower at the Stars micro-limit tables.
That "they play nothing like the 2/4 dollar table" stuff is BS. If you can't beat the micro-limit games you WILL NOT beat the higher limit games. Start low and work up as you prove yourself to be a winning player.
You will gain alot of practice and experience and you may save yourself alot of money.
Read and reread TOP, Winning Low Limit Hold'em, and Hold'em Poker for advanced Players.
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: PokerStars or PartyPoker

Why does everyone play at Party? I've heard better players are at PS? Top players in WSOP were from PS right? I am not stating facts, just questions. I am having my friend transfer $100 into my PS account, and if I really should be playing PP then let me know. I am reading (and re-reading) Winning Low Limit Hold 'em and ToP right now. Thanks again.
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Old 05-30-2004, 02:08 AM
OnlinePokerCoach OnlinePokerCoach is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars or PartyPoker

Don't ask why. Just play where the fish are: Party/Empire. The ring games at Stars are just too tight. Perhaps the recent final table showings of Stars players will amount to some newbies joining Stars. Otherwise, Party/Empire is where the profit is right now.

You will find that online poker can be much more profitable than live poker for many reasons: faster games, multiple table play, no drive to the casino, no tipping, etc.

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Old 05-30-2004, 03:02 AM
phishfan phishfan is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars or PartyPoker

I don't know why the average online player plays at party poker, probably because they advertised more, but the average online winning player on this site plays at party because that's where all the weak players/games are. Sure, if you want to play against better players on average and test your skills than play at poker stars, but if you want to make money, play party poker.

Actually, you shouldn't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. Download both poker stars and party poker's software and open up a .50/1.00, 1/2, or 2/4 on each and watch the games.
Also $200 isn't really alot of money for .50/1.00. If you are sure you are a winning player then yeah $200 would probably be enough, but anything higher than .50/1.00 would be more like gambling than poker. That's why I suggested the .05/.10 games at poker stars. With $50 you can play a long time without worrying about fluctuations and find out how your game stacks up against other players. If you just tear up those games than move up to party. If you find out your game needs some work than you will have saved money because your mistakes only cost you .10 or .20 cents instead of $1 or $2.
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Old 05-30-2004, 02:33 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars or PartyPoker

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I am a very good live player (i.e. 3 days of local poker games and I'm +$200 in profit).

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this does NOT mean you are a very good player.

in fact, your belief that these incredibly short-term results are proof of your talent probably indicates that you are not a very good player (or at least don't have a very good understanding of the fluctuations inherent in the game).

i know a couple others already brought it up...but i think it is worth re-emphasizing for our new friend here.

it is very very easy for a newcomer to make too much out of their short-term results...you are not the first person to have done this and won't be the last.
but it will be best for your chances of long-term success if you understand that fluctuations are natural in this game. consequently, a lousy player can easily win over 3 days of live play just by getting lucky...just as a very good player can easily lose over 3 days of live play just by being unlucky.


however, you were directed to this site presumably by a fellow 2+2'er so perhaps he is in a better position to judge your playing potential.


yes, there are some very strong players at stars...including the last 2 WSOP champions. but for many of us, that is a reason NOT to play at stars. we like playing with lousier players because they are more profitable.
if your goal is to try to make extra-bucks per week then why would you want to play with good players (possibly better than you)??

david is correct in that it doesn't really matter which site you choose. you can put 200 in each and see which site you prefer.
there is no definitive answer to 'which site is best??'. each has their postivies and drawbacks.

it's like asking whether you should have McDonalds or Wendys for lunch...such a tough decision and you cant decide so you came to us so that we could inform you which one is 'better'.
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