Flopping TP when posting in the CO

[Saborion]

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New at table.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds.

River: (9 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls $1.84 (All-In).

Final Pot: 10.46 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 9.92 BB, between SB and Hero.</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: 0.54 BB, overbet by Hero.</font>
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Oh, and just a quick question.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, Hero folds.

Without reads, this is a fold right? Just double-checking after something I read in some post not long ago. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Paul Talbot]

Hand 1. typically I would check behind on the river as probably an 8 beats you plus any 9 or J beats you plus there are flush and straight possibilities. Here because the SB is going to be all-in the bet is fine because you cannot be raised and a lot of people will just throw that last dollar in with anything because they don't care anymore and their odds are so large.

Hand 2. I would call because your late blind should reduce the raising stndards for MP enough that you cannot assume you are behind and you will have position throughout the hand.

Regards,

Paul

[chesspain]

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Hand 2. I would call because your late blind should reduce the raising stndards for MP enough that you cannot assume you are behind and you will have position throughout the hand.


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Actually, Hero is in the BB, so he will be out of position for the remainder of the hand to the MP openraiser and the coldcaller. Consequently, I would usually toss the ATo without a second thought, unless I knew that this player was a very light openraiser from MP.

[Saborion]

Hand 1:
I wouldn't have bet the river unless I had put the SB all in.

Hand 2:
I'm the BB. If I had posted in the CO I'm more likely to raise this hand I think. Call at least.

[BaronVonCP]

What range of hands did you put SB on at what is the most likely?

[Saborion]

Since I knew nothing about him, he could have just about anything since he's short stacked. Most likely is 8x, flush draw, straight draw.

My river bet was not a good one I think.

[sfer]

With the SB nearly all in I think the river bet is fine. He really could have anything.

Hand 2 is an easy fold.

[BaronVonCP]

Yeah that's what I'm getting at.

However, I think the most likely 8s are 78,98, and a8.
So if you are fairly confident he would have raised the turn with a flush, and will still call with a crappy 8 or no pair, there can be some value in the bet.

I missed the part about where he was short stacked.