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Old 05-23-2004, 03:11 PM
B Dids B Dids is offline
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Default Re: are you kidding ?

Bah,

He's promoting himself. If his financially tied to all those products, it's not just bragging to promote them, it's good business sense.

It's my opinion that for anybody to consistantly do well in a competative environment you've got to be pretty high on yourself. You see it from atheletes all the time. I'm sure that one of the reasons Phil is a great poker play is because of his belief that "good things happen to him".

I'm not defending his tantrums, but I find it bizzare that people just seem to by looking for reasons to dislike him.
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Old 05-23-2004, 03:23 PM
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Default One thing sums up my opinion on this matter:

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Old 05-23-2004, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: are you kidding ?

I honestly LOVE reading these threads. You can just see the jealously oozing from Sly grin's keyboard. It's awesome. The 'phil-bashers' are so jealous and will jump on anything to try to bring him down, while he just laughs, plays great poker, and makes a ton of money.
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Also...

anybody ever read zmichael Koniks book when he devoted a section about Phil? I think the most important reason he does all the other stuff is becuase his game is lacking. He admits to being almost broke (poker bankroll) which says alot about one of the top tourney pro's.

People are so fast to judge what they dont really know.
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: are you kidding ?

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they all show the most egotistical, self centered and generally annoying person in poker.



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You havent met me yet [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: are you kidding ?

Cmon, people hate helmuth cause he's a crybaby. I think he's a great player, and have no jealousy towards the guy at all, but I can't stand the guy. Every time he catches a bad beat he has to whine about it. Every play someone makes that he may not agree with he has to say something. I have no problem with him being self-confident, even cocky, hell he's a pro poker player, if you didnt think you were gonna win every time why would you even bother? but the fact still remains when he gets beat, whether by good play or luck, just shut up and take it. You don't see Ivey, Lederer, or any other of the elite players crying every time some one catches a bad beat on them do you?
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Old 05-23-2004, 05:55 PM
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LOL, yeah, of course - anyone who doesn't like him MUST be jealous ! Get real. There is a reason so many people dislike him. Do you read his columns ? I've read every one for the last 2 years. They've long since stopped being about poker strategy and have become nothing but self promotion and bad beat whining. Have you listened to his interviews, seen him bitching time after time ?

Do you see anyone bashing Lederer or Hansen or Juanda or Ivey whoever you want to name ?

He is no longer about playing poker, he is about promoting Phil Hellmuth. And people will continue to dislike him for that.

But you go ahead and think that it's just jealousy. Loser.
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Old 05-23-2004, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Uh, oh, guess who has $14K after Day 1

i think Varkonyi has a relatively large stack too
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Uh, oh, guess who has $14K after Day 1

Maybe his MIT coach has "cracked" the game [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:01 PM
1p0kerb0y 1p0kerb0y is offline
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Default Re: Also...

C'mon, you guys gotta admit some of the stuff he does is just plain entertaining! I was laughing my butt off when I read that story about Phil throwing his chair down and storming out of the casino! That's some good stuff. Without Phil, poker wouldn't be the same.
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