Right time to push or just call?

[tdomeski]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) converter

UTG ($$102.05)
MP1 ($$247.40)
MP2 ($$272.50)
Hero ($$146.75)
Button ($$242.50)
SB ($$426.65)
BB ($$234.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls $2, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($19) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets $10</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to $32</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $140.75</font>, Button folds, BB calls $108.75.

Turn: ($310.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>

River: ($310.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>

Final Pot: $310.50
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: $310.50, between Hero and BB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by BB ($310.50).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows 9d Jd (flush, jack high).
Hero shows Ts Th (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: BB wins $310.50. </font>

[Baulucky]

I'd fold this unless the other guy would likely pay me off on the turn if the board pairs, in which case I'd call not raise. His CK-raise flags his flush.

[tdomeski]

I need to add that the re-raise after the flop did not necessarily mean a flush. . . this player is capable of reraising with as little as the A of [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

[Baulucky]

With that $32 bet he earns the $6 I put in the pot pre-flop.

Note: Repeat: I'm a newbie trying to learn. Please shoot my reasons down. That's what I want.

[josie_wales]

I will answer as soon as you tell me what range of hands you put him on when he raises a $10 better to $32 on that flop.

JW

[tdomeski]

6-6, 3-3, naked A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], I figure it's 65/35 against a flush + the extra equity of him laying down a smaller flush, which he almost did. . .not to mention if he calls with 6-6 or 3-3 I'm heavy favorite. . .I think I have to push or fold there, any thoughts?

[Baulucky]

You made it too easy for him by raising. If he has the flush he calls, otherwise he folds. IMO that raise indicates a strong hand, and you only have $6 in the pot. It's a clear fold to me.

[tdomeski]

IMO that raise indicates a steal on a scary board with a pre flop raiser on the button auto raising the flop. . . . If I call I'm stuck when a diamond falls. . IDK. . . .Just because this person raises doesn't mean he/she has the flush. . . I lost my stack though. . so my logic obviously did not turn out to be true. . .

[tdomeski]

Maybe this hand needs to go in the thread right below. ."worst post ever". . .. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[The Ram]

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IMO that raise indicates a strong hand, and you only have $6 in the pot.

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I'm failing to understand why you've mentioned that $6 twice. It's in the pot. It isn't anyone's money anymore (yet). This kind of thinking will only serve to hurt you in the long run.