100% bonus up to 500$?

[TheNutz]

I am sorry I know some of the 'behind the scenes stuff', no way they will make it offering that.. deposit at risk! Collusion and chip dumper haven! No joke.

Regards,
Ryan Lanane
Marketing Director
NutzPoker.com

[Stagemusic]

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I am sorry I know some of the 'behind the scenes stuff', no way they will make it offering that.. deposit at risk! Collusion and chip dumper haven! No joke.

Regards,
Ryan Lanane
Marketing Director
NutzPoker.com

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Nutz,

I am appealing to you right now. Do NOT come in here and trash other sites. This is a sure way to get banned. You are a representative of a site. Show some class. Not a smart move.

No, I am not affiliated in any way with ANY site. And if this is the type of people that are hired by NUTZ, I won't be playing there either. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[TheNutz]

Stage,
When I am representing NP.. I attach my signature. If I am simply posting as a member of the two plus two community I do not. I assure you many two plus two members will agree with my recomendation, an offer like this is seriously unfeasible. Even if Party Poker themselves were to offer it there would be constant restrictions on cashouts due to suspected chip dumping, player's accounts would be banned for allegedly being partof a group of players abusing the bonus (even though they aren't) simply because they won the bonus money that was offered to other players.

Someone suggested the site I promote offered a $50.00 free no strings signup bonus in another thread (do your own digging, I am not promoting at this point) and it was brought up at even a MEAGER $50.00 !!!! There was a site that went under due to this offer.

You guys can judge me as you will, but I post here as a player and as a promoter. You can tell the difference by when my signature is attached. I learned quickly how I should distinguish the two, attach my signature if it is bsiness or includes my knowledge of that business... If not I don't attach my sigature. As a player, if NP was not even open I would of made this same exact post.

If you can tell me you are aware of bonus structures, why sites offer them, and the benefits of offering them. Then go on and explain how a new site can offer a 100% match deposit on $500.00, please do so in full detail including your knowledge of chargeback percentages, processing fees, and the various other charges poker sites incur. Until then please do not try to come down on me as SO MANY of you do.

You will not drive me off this forumn by you presumptious accusations of my constant promotion or some of the other issues which have arosen. I simply don't respond to that material until the time is appropriate.

Although, yes I am the maketing dirctor for NP - I am also a PLAYER. And I feel my input as a player for LONGER then 80 - 90% of you have played on-line should be valuable input. You may feel it is biased as I am involved with another poker site, see what my last 5 posts involved! PLEASE tell me after looking into this that I am trying to knock down competition (which I don't even know or CARE who this company is - if they can pull it off and prove it I WOULD SIGN UP MYSELF! But not until they prove it to 100's of players who have cashed out)

I am sorry if every time I make a post you have to presume it is associated with me marketing a site, there is nothing I can do about that. Please read my last 20 post and then reply to this response.

For christ sake, I talk about the past tournaments I played at Paradise and I also mention a hand history I would like input on Stage! you guys really need to get over this stuff! There are very few posters here who have nay problem with the way I handle myself on a daily basis. The ones that do are the ones that literally feel this forumn is THEIR LIFE!

As sad as it is I spend an average of 3 - 4 hours a day reading through old archives on this forum, reloading and waiting for replies on subjects that interest me, and trying to find any material who may be beneficial to me as a poker player.

Stage you and everyone else who complains about me need to chill out! Had I not made that post, would you of even posted anything? Do you think someone would of eventually came along besides me and say "Avoid that site", just as they did about the site I have been known to market? Did I reply to THOSE THREADS, bring on constant fritction, argumentation, or cause the arise of any problems due to my posts that either answered questions relationg to the site I was promotng or simply posted an offered regarding it.

I am posting this as a player defending my rights to KEEP posting here as a PLAYER. I am completely impartial, I speak about tournaments at InterTops, Paradise, Party, Stars! All the major sites! You guys really need to relax a little bit and make this site what it is about, talking about poker. Truth be told, ANYONE but me or anyone affiliated with another poker site made that post there would be no problems at all. Actually, simply put, anyone but me!

But because I work for another site on the side I am not allowed to post my opinion as a player?

[Stagemusic]

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You guys can judge me as you will, but I post here as a player and as a promoter. You can tell the difference by when my signature is attached. I learned quickly how I should distinguish the two, attach my signature if it is bsiness or includes my knowledge of that business... If not I don't attach my sigature. As a player, if NP was not even open I would of made this same exact post.

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Nutz,

I don't care how you phrase it. Your signature was attached to this post as MD of NUTZ Poker. Your capacity as Marketing Director makes you a representative of that site. A representative of one site should not be bashing another. If you would like to post as a player and post such information it is a simple matter to make another user name for that purpose. Posters do that all of the time. I agree with you that care should be taken at a new site...ANY new site, even yours. My complaint is not with what you had to say, I happen to agree with you. It is that you were commenting on another site period.

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There are very few posters here who have nay problem with the way I handle myself on a daily basis. The ones that do are the ones that literally feel this forumn is THEIR LIFE!


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I personally have had no problems with you marketing your site here...good luck to you. I also really don't post all that much. I have been on over a year and have yet to reach 1000 posts...less than 3 per day. You are actually averaging about the same number. Oh yeah...I live in Central IL as well. So my life consists of watching the same corn and beans grow as you. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[lunchmeat]

Ryan, I haven't read any of your previous posts, but this one certainly didn't seem like spamming. Still, I have a few questions about why you think Desert Poker has an irresponsible bonus policy. Would you mind sharing the reasons why you think this bonus is not feasable?

Since the bonus releases incrementally, chip dumping does not seem like it would be a factor. Also, they seem to use a very conservative bonus structure whereby they pay out only a % of the contributed rake. While this structure does not make this a particularly attractive bonus for players, it seems the site will be making money even as players are working off their bonuses. I also didn't know that chargebacks were a factor when players deposit through methods web-wallets like Neteller.

[lostinthought]

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Although, yes I am the maketing dirctor for NP - I am also a PLAYER.

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oh, I bet you are a PLAYER. that's why you have to work as a marketing director - to support your poker habit. (a losing one, that is)

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But because I work for another site on the side I am not allowed to post my opinion as a player?

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you clueless bonehead. This might be valid if you didn't post your companies signature at the end of your post.

all your doing is making a case for people here not to play on nutz..

go away, or get some common sense..

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

Nutz,
Perhaps your intentions would best be served if you had a second username for when you intend to post as a player so that these things don't happen. Whether or not your signature is attached is a bit nuanced for an internet messageboard crowd (I've done similar things to indicate varying levels of seriousness on other boards and it doesn't work). You have a very prominent avatar that is easily recognizable and instantly affiliates you with nutzpoker, regardless of your signature or lack thereof. You have to realize that you will always be seen as the marketing director for nutzpoker regardless of the content of your posts. Would you expect people to listen to Bill Gates talk about an iMac as a 'computer user' and not as the head of Microsoft? Your intentions may very well be 100% good, but it's not going to happen for you unless you come out with a different, ambiguous screenname showing no ties to your employer.


Patrick

[GrannyMae]

Although, yes I am the maketing dirctor for NP - I am also a PLAYER

this means you play at OTHER sites, not nutz right? you would not play at nutz would you? all that hand history acess would give you too much information. i'm sure you meant other sites because all the reputal site officers have strict rules against playing their own site. like i said, i'm sure you are not playing at nutz, but please post the answer here so i can know for sure.

i think this is a very important issue to address for the sake of your own, but most importantly, the site's credibility. if it happens that you DO play your own site, please explain to us why this is ok.

thx ryan

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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Although, yes I am the maketing dirctor for NP - I am also a PLAYER

this means you play at OTHER sites, not nutz right? you would not play at nutz would you? all that hand history acess would give you too much information. i'm sure you meant other sites because all the reputal site officers have strict rules against playing their own site. like i said, i'm sure you are not playing at nutz, but please post the answer here so i can know for sure.

i think this is a very important issue to address for the sake of your own, but most importantly, the site's credibility. if it happens that you DO play your own site, please explain to us why this is ok.

thx ryan



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He recently posted in a thread (I forgot which one now) that he only plays at other sites. Someone else then went on to ask why he didn't play at his own site and insisted that it wasn't necessary to keep off his own site's tables. I won't vouch for the second poster's intelligence.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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Although, yes I am the maketing dirctor for NP - I am also a PLAYER

this means you play at OTHER sites, not nutz right? you would not play at nutz would you? all that hand history acess would give you too much information. i'm sure you meant other sites because all the reputal site officers have strict rules against playing their own site. like i said, i'm sure you are not playing at nutz, but please post the answer here so i can know for sure.

i think this is a very important issue to address for the sake of your own, but most importantly, the site's credibility. if it happens that you DO play your own site, please explain to us why this is ok.

thx ryan



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He recently posted in a thread (I forgot which one now) that he only plays at other sites. Someone else then went on to ask why he didn't play at his own site and insisted that it wasn't necessary to keep off his own site's tables. I won't vouch for the second poster's intelligence.

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I found where this happened. It was in the Best Online Poker Sites thread.

I guess you'll have to assume/trust that he's telling the truth.