I know I was bluffing, but ...

[TheNutz]

Ok yeh yeh yeh - I know I was bluffing and shouldn't of been there in the first place. But was this hand not played as if I was holding KJ damn near perfectly? (Maybe that was the problem in itself?) Could you honestly make the call this guy did? Just curious as to how horrible of a bluff it was..

Used to criticism so attack away..

Game #504957102 - (blinds $1/$2) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2004/05/19-17:33:38 (CST)
Table "Kelai" (real money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: dingchavez ($53.50 in chips)
Seat 7: MAB03 ($176.00 in chips)
Seat 8: nudgeb ($213.00 in chips)
Seat 9: Smackdown22 ($173.25 in chips)
Seat 10: \RockFish/ ($229.25 in chips)
\RockFish/: Post Small Blind ($1)
dingchavez: Post Big Blind ($2)
Dealing...
Dealt to MAB03 [ 7h ]
Dealt to MAB03 [ 7c ]
MAB03 : Raise ($8)
nudgeb : Fold
Smackdown22: Fold
\RockFish/: Call ($7)
dingchavez: Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ Jh Ad 4d ]
\RockFish/: Check
MAB03 : Bet ($9.50)
\RockFish/: Call ($9.50)
*** TURN *** : [ Jh Ad 4d ] [ Jd ]
\RockFish/: Bet ($6)
MAB03 : Raise ($50)
\RockFish/: Call ($44)
*** RIVER *** : [ Jh Ad 4d Jd ] [ Ks ]
\RockFish/: Bet ($10)
MAB03 : Raise ($108.50)
\RockFish/: Call ($98.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $352 | Rake: $2
Board: [ Jh Ad 4d Jd Ks ]
dingchavez lost $2 (folded)
MAB03 lost $176 (showed hand) [ 7h 7c ] (two pair, jacks and sevens)
nudgeb didn't bet (folded)
Smackdown22 didn't bet (folded)
\RockFish/ bet $176, collected $352, net +$176 (showed hand) [ 2s As ] (two pair, aces and jacks)

[rusty JEDI]

I have vitually no NL ring experience, but i cant believe you fired in that much on the river after he called your large raise on the turn and open bet the flop.

I think you made a play at the turn and then when you got caught, you just kept firing stubbornly. That said though, i am surprised he made both the turn call and river call with such a poor kicker.

rJ

[Jurollo]

the kicker doesnt mean anything after the turn because of the 2nd J that came down, his bet indicated that he had the J or at the very least an A with a very nice kicker. However, when you were called on the turn and he put the initial bet of $10 down after the river you have to cut your losses and not re-up for another $100. That $10 to me indicates he definately has a large hand and is either putting in a value bet, or hoping you go over the top on him so he could call. It worked out that he had crap and you had less than crap, I just woulda cut my losses on the river.

[rusty JEDI]

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the kicker doesnt mean anything after the turn because of the 2nd J that came down, his bet indicated that he had the J or at the very least an A with a very nice kicker.

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You said the kicker doesnt matter, yet one of the two possible hadns he could put him on is an A with a very nice kicker. Please explain.

rJ

[Jurollo]

I simply meant the lack of a solid kicker is eliminated by the call of the huge bet after the second J came down because, most likely, if he called it he had a J. I rambled incoherently after that so ignore it.

[TheNutz]

Only way kicker would matter is if I had AK and top two pr instead of aces and J's with the K on board as kicker making

AAJJK

Any other sections where I might get more answers on this? I see everyone's opinions so far and know where they are coming from.. would just like to hear from more people.

[MrDannimal]

Yeah, how about the Pot-, No-Limit section?

[Homer]

This was probably a Party 6-max game, right? I never bluff in these games, because people make calls like this all the time. Just wait until you have trip Jacks or a flush to make a move like this.

-- Homer