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Old 05-03-2004, 12:18 PM
roundhouse roundhouse is offline
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Default Dumb fold or dumb luck?

Sorry, just had to get this one off my chest...

Party 0.5/1, 10 at the table. I'm dealt T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG+1. UTG limps; my play. The table is pretty loose, there are a couple of players behind me who seem to like raising pre-flop, which I don't fancy so I fold... Two more limpers and the blinds stay in.

Flop comes J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and it checks around.

Bugger.

Turn card is (of course) the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Bugger. Bugger. Bugger.

LP bets and takes the pot unchallenged.

I would've played it from MP or LP (right or wrong?), was this a foolish fold or was I right to bail?

RH
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Old 05-03-2004, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Dumb fold or dumb luck?

Key words being "likely to raise" make this an easy fold.

Even without those key words I fold.
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Old 05-03-2004, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: Dumb fold or dumb luck?

I play QTs UTG ... unless there is a lot of preflop raising.

You called the table the way you saw it and made a reasonable choice. Next hand.
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Old 05-03-2004, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Dumb fold or dumb luck?

Knowing I am going to hit the Royal if I dont fold, I probably play this, I might even raise.

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Old 05-03-2004, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Dumb fold or dumb luck?

Good fold given the table conditions you describe. Don't sweat it.
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Old 05-03-2004, 01:42 PM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: Dumb fold or dumb luck?

Hey Kiemo:

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I might even raise.


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This is a must raise. Not even close.

--Rico
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Old 05-03-2004, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Dumb fold or dumb luck?

Unless the table has been insane, I.e. 3 bets + each hand you can limp this.
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Old 05-03-2004, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: Dumb fold or dumb luck?

If I start bottling and selling this hindsight, how much do you think I should charge? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-03-2004, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Dumb fold or dumb luck?

I play QTs UTG at any loose table. With a limper, I'd play it all day.

"Seem to like raising pre-flop"? Unless that means that almost every hand was raised, this is a routine limp.

Either way: don't worry about it. The EV difference of limping or folding on any given QTs here is probably very small. If either is a mistake, I doubt it's a major one.
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