Too aggressive on flop?

dana33 · #1 04-29-2004, 04:20 PM

After this hand played out, I asked myself whether it was really a good idea to raise the flop, given that I would want players behind me to stay in to pay me off if I hit my draw. Would it have been better to just call the flop?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players) 
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players) 
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (10.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players) 
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG+1 shows Js Qs (flush, queen high).
Hero shows 7s As (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 12.75 BB.

DoctorDrew · #2 04-29-2004, 04:29 PM

Very nice. Look at your results, two players cold called. They'll do it again. Plus, it makes it harder to put you on a draw when the spade hits.

In my book, you cannot be too aggressive [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

afs · #3 04-29-2004, 04:32 PM

I think the raise is fine, and probably _made_ you money. One player folded. The most likely results if you didn't raise are either --
(1) they'd call & fold on the turn. You lose one small bet.
(2) they'd fold anyway. You lose two small bets.

The raise is a slight value bet which gives you control of the action ... I think this was played well.

Lost Wages · #4 04-29-2004, 05:55 PM

If UTG wasn't such a wuss you would have made a lot more. Raising the flop may clean-up your ace out. Nice hand.

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